scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: I'll pay 6 cents for that :)
J Wilson (nitehawk@BENDNET.COM
Wed Feb 16 2000 - 06:19:55 CST
>That is the single biggest flaw in the "New Scout Patrol" concept.
>with a 12 year old Patrol, a 13 year old Patrol, etc. Gone is the "Patrol
>and spirit that kept the same Patrol name in the Troop for 25 years,
>with a stack of ribbons their flag would no longer carry.
This comment is right on!
I feel we loose a great part of the program when we keep youth seperated by
ages... that part of the program is peer mentoring and older youth /
younger youth association.
I have recently returned to the troop of my youth (i have been away at
college) and the leadership has changed the troop into this 'age
associated' class system. The PLC recently made a push to divide the
patrols once again randomly with mixed ages to revitalize the troop.
One of the key points made by a 17 year old JASM, who happened to be
beginning in scouts when I was in my last year as a patrol leader made this
point: He said that he learned to cook in a dutch oven, not by watching
the 'older scout patrol' or by seeing demonstrations, or from the cooking
MB, or any other 'class' technique. He said that he learned this skill by
the way that I, as a fellow patrol member, cooked our patrol meals dutch
oven style and activly enlisted his help in the preparation process at a
PATROL level, acting as a mentor. (Gee, was I surprised when he broght
this up -- I cant even remember the campout, but he obviously did.) He
felt that this learning could not have taken place with all younger kids
trying to teach other younger kids.
One of the other youth summed up the troops condition by saying that
"things really started to go downhill when the Panthers and the Pheasnts
became the Eagles and the Wolves, and we were put in the 'older scout
I am very proud of our PLC right now because they brought this discussion
on completely and entirely themselves, without input from any adults. They
had to directly confront the SM and several ASM's who were opposed to their
observations and did not perceive a problem. They stood their ground and
presented a well thought out and organized solution as a TEAM... The SM is
backing them and supporting their decision -- he is a great SM and is
fixing a lot of problems in this troop.
Enough of my ramblings now.
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