scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: "no wings, no wheels"
Mon Feb 14 2000 - 20:34:39 CST
> From: Bob and Rusty Taylor
> Subject: "no wings, no wheels"
> but I guess in the final view, he is responsible for what he does. and as
> much is it is a dissappointment to me, he is the one who will really have
> to bear the long term consequences of not earning his Eagle.
A cryptic comment. What exactly are the "consequences of not
earning (the) Eagle" rank ??
I was one of those who did not earn the Eagle rank. And yes, I am
sure I broke my father's heart. But personal consequences to me ??
I don't know what they might be. Sure I have heard others talk of doors
opened, increased self esteem, yadda, yadda, yaddah (not intending
any disrespect with that :-) ). But nothing personal that I know harmed
me. Or lessened the opportunities available to me. And yes I loved
my scouting days. Up to the time I learned of girls, gasoline and money.
> thanks for letting me vent. my heart goes out to all Scouters who have a
> son who doesn't want to finish up the path to Eagle, but as a parent who
> an Eagle, I would rather have a boy who only went part way, and earned
> stuff he did get, than go all the way and not get a good end product.
Now that is a sentiment that I can agree with !! Certainly I would push my
son but not to the point of a "not...good end product". And certainly I
encourage other Scouters to encourage him also. Just in case he is into
not listening to Mom and Dad. ( Like me ohh so many years ago... :-| )
( I can think of several adult leaders that I wished would have
me a little 'harder' to finish !! )
> by the way; a weak end product, is in my opinion, more a reflection of
> program the boys unit offers, than the boy himself. if the program is
> is an unmotivated Scout will not advance very far. if advancement happens
> in a haphazard manner, w/out hte Scout earning the advancement, the fault
> lies with the adults.
Words to think about in guiding youths in leading Scout activities and
T. W. Hess
Troop # 42
Des Moines, Iowa
> Bob Taylor