scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Important Update (Why)
David Delman (Delman01@COMPUSERVE.COM
Fri Feb 11 2000 - 21:41:55 CST
< 9 Feb 2000 20:13:02 Ken Faris <kfaris@FLASH.NET>
Woah TX-KenF, A long and informative reply!
I hope in my reply I touched on your concern correctly.
I am twisting it around a bit and looking at your concern
from another perspective so please play along.
Yes there are great BSA laid out program on the tiger,
cub, webelos, and scout side yet several practices get
primarily in the way of everyone running together like
you have described as the preferred team/patrol style
and all closing at AOL together and crossing together.
1>The boys don't all show up all the time or complete
all the requirements as the program unfolds. This is
not always due to the W-DL. This results in some doing
great and others falling behind. In some cases the W-DL
is the problem as they become preferrential with certain
boys for various reasons. So we have to allow this to
occur since we can't stop it and still create a transition.
2>Late Year Crossings
"Hey TX-Kenny made AOL and is now graduated and done"
Mom and Dad say phew!! done finally
Move up the crossing to February rather than April, or
May and the boys and families transition much easier.
They also start to plan for Summer Camp and even generate
some revenue via Scout Fund Raisers to pay for their own
1st year Boy Scouting Adventure.
Many troops have a late crossing which makes the boys and
more importantly the adults not want to cross.
3>Scout Troop w/o Webelos Interaction
If you have been on Scouts-L long enough you will read how
various troops, SM's, Committees have an interaction program
that helps the Webelos and the Webelos, AOL parents
"WANT TO" bridge or at least ease their discomfort. Den Chiefs,
and Joint Campouts or Events starting in the Fall make the boys
WANT to go with those "bigger boys" and start to make the parents
a smidgen more comfortable with the antics of the "bigger boys".
These troops even bring leader application forms and the "use
every scout adult" form and offer the new parents places to use
their many fine skills in support of scouting.
One Scouts-L troop put it best. Take Care of the Parents and
the boys seem to tag along. I think this was KU-Pete, sorry
if this was someone elses.
You have to remember that some of these parents feel a little
uncomfortable with their Kenny mingling with those "bigger
boys". It always makes me smile to see the parents transition
from "Those bigger boys are too roudy" to "My bigger boy is
just being a boy" a few years later in scouts.
In Summary IMHO you are right yet with a little tweeking here
and there I have seen what you have described turn around and
whether the webelos made AOL or not didn't matter for keeping
the webelos den through transition as a New Scout Patrol.
Discuss at your Cub Pack Committee meeting how to tinker
with things and how to interact with a troop that wants
your adults and webelos to grow into it. If you like this
idea start another Subject Heading and piles of Scouts-Lrs
will surely offer help and opinions. Maybe even CO-Jan
YiS, IMHO, and may we each attempt to live the SO,SL,SS,SM
(AND BELIEVE ME THAT is TOUGH!!!
Mr Dave (Hawleyton, NY (Baden-Powell Council