scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: THANKS! Re: MB Counselor Question
Mark Alman (alman@BIGFOOT.COM
Thu Feb 10 2000 - 10:45:54 CST
Thanks everyone for the all of the responses I received to my original
problem. Almost 40 of you responded and the vast majority supported my
point of view and pointed out that, at best, this Counselor shouldn't be
used, and to carry it a little further, he should be reported to the
District Advancement Chair.
As a service to our Troop, District, and for what is best for the Scouts,
I'm going to inform District of his long-standing policy regarding MB's and
advise them to remove him as a District Counselor. Being the SM, I have
already informed our Troop Advancement Chair not to use him, as well.
This entire situation puts me into a very uncomfortable position, as he
has done a lot for the Troop and for the District. He was never a Scout
himself and has only been involved in Scouting for ~3 years.
But my overriding interests and priorities have to be what is best and
fair for the Scouts and in accordance with BSA policies. It's not easy to
do the right thing, sometimes, but God knows I sleep better having done it.
Thanks again, everyone!
SM - Troop 67
Here's my original post:
Hey, folks! Just a quick question and one that I think I know the answer
to. I just wanted to poll the collective wisdom here.
Here's the scenario:
Scotty Scout starts Camping MB with Mr. Counselor. Mr. Counselor tells
Scout (and his SM) that if the MB is not completed within a year, he will
not counsel him after the year has expired.
Question: Is this kosher? Sounds as if requirements are being added.
A couple of minor points:
1.) Our Troop maintains a file on each Scout that has their MB Blue
Card as well as a "MB Completion Report" that is widely used
by our Council (and others, I think), that lists what items
are left to be completed for a certain MB. We routinely receive these
from Summer Camps and Winter Camps we attend.The Counselor initials
these after each requirement is completed and when it is finished
the Blue Card and Report are given to our Advancement person
for recording. Completed requirements are also entered into
2.) The Counselor's 1 year stipulation is basically "being an old fart"
as one responder put it. Even though he knows that the Troop
keeps very good records as to impartials and this is how our
Troop and many others in the area handle incomplete MB's, he
doesn't want to "keep up" with the blue cards for longer than
a year. Nothing more.
BTW, this gentleman holds more than one District position
and is WB-trained, so I would think he would know better.
I would like everyone's .02 on this before I have the Troop drop this
individual as a counselor (and yes, I have told said counselor that this is
adding requirements, IMHO. Am I wrong?)