scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: Important Update (Why)
Ken Faris (kfaris@FLASH.NET
Wed Feb 09 2000 - 20:13:02 CST
Ok -- There has been some great input concerning this both pro and con and
some really great insights.
Let's break it down a little farther, though ;-) Maybe, I asked the wrong
question in retrospect. (Usual case with me)
As I understand it, both from experience and issues raised here on the list.
Many of us in the Cubscouting ranks experience this early AOL issue.
Several things happen, our 2nd year dens become disrupted & disjointed
because of different departure dates by AOL recipients. 2nd year Webelos
who move slower becoming discouraged as others leave them behind, etc...
(most of you know or have seen many more issues than these.)
I think MY problem though is this: When I look at the Webelos information,
handbook, leaders guide, etc... here is what it tells me, (my
interpretations and paraphrasing--if you wish to quote verbatim, feel free
to do so) At the beginning of my leaders guide it talks about being a
transition program. It lays out the facts that we are moving away from MOM
& DAD signoffs and into Den Leader signoffs. It then Lays out a two year
program, a program for mixed dens, program for fast track, etc... What I
see from the book is a group progression at the same pace month-by-month
through the program. Why then do we keep running into all these issues with
the AOL and early exits by AOL recipients? If we as leaders are running the
program according to the materials and advancing as groups, then wouldn't it
seem reasonable that all the boys would be receiving their AOL at the same
time? If the BSA VERBATIM rules and guidelines are to be followed at all
times-- then why should we not follow the Webelos program exactly as laid
out by the time frames in the guidebook.
Now, many of you out there will jump and proclaim that it is strictly about
the individual and what he earns. That is not my point in this case. My
point is that the BSA in all their infinite wisdom;-) have laid out a
program for Webelos on a month-by-month progression, why don't we follow it
to avoid the problems concerning the AOL issue. It also seems to me that by
using this (transition) program; in effect you are teaching the early values
of the patrol method, and making the age appropriate transition from Mom &
Dad dependency for advancement to dependency upon one's self because of the
peer pressure felt from the need to stay up with one's group. I would think
this would ultimately lead to a stronger Scout who believes in himself but
also in the need to participate with both those who are ahead of or behind
Just a few more of my wondering, riot inciting, thoughts :-)