scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: Important Update
Anthony Mako (ajmako@NLS.NET
Tue Feb 08 2000 - 08:08:20 CST
<Darryl Hammill wrote>
I have already said, my experience is with Troops - not Packs. But, this
would be like our Troop withholding a Rank Advancement after a young man
completed his Board of Review until the next Court of Honor. That's not
fair - and I suspect not "by the book". If he earned a rank you advance him.
In fact, in the Star, Life and Eagle ranks specific timeframe play an
important role in advancement. So, to hold a Scout's advancement delays his
next rank - not fair.
There is usually some difference between the date an award is earned, and
when it is presented. In all respects, however, the date used on all the
paperwork (and the date used as the starting point of the next rank) is the
date the last requirement was signed. In a troop, a Scout IS a Tenderfoot
the moment the BOR signs his book. It may take a while for the advancement
report to be processed, the award to be purchased, and finally awarded, but
that Scout IS a Tenderfoot during that time. Likewise, the clock starts
ticking on Star, Life, and Eagle before the ink dries on the BOR signature
for the previous rank, not when the Scout is finally recognized for his
My questions remains - is holding advancement or accomplishments back until
a Blue and Gold "by the book". If it is not - then this Pack has a different
set of issues beyond this situation with this one young man.
If you wait until two weeks before the Blue and Gold, or Court of Awards to
sign the final requirement, even though it's been done for weeks (or months)
it has the effect of lessening the feeling of accomplishment the Scout gets
from completing a task. If, however, the final signatures are made
immediately upon completion, AND the Scout is recognized publically for the
accomplishment, waiting some time before formally awarding the Scout isn't
In all cases, it is best to present the award as soon as possible after it
is earned. Immediate recognition is an important part of the advancement
process. It's much like having to wait until the end of the year to get paid
for your work. Sure, it would be a huge paycheck, but the hardship you have
to endure between EARNING the money, and RECEIVING the money takes a bit of
the joy out of it. The next year, you're not as willing to do a good job.
The good thing about the situation is that the Scout moved on and has stayed
with Scouting. A lot of kids would have quickly lost interest entirely and
would have disappeared without a trace. There wouldn't have been a bridging
ceremony or awarding of AOL.
AJ Mako, Scoutmaster, Troop 381 http://www.scouts381.org/
Great Trail Council, Old Portage District