scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: LNT v. Camporee
Phil Combs (pcombs@LMI22.COM
Wed Feb 02 2000 - 10:48:58 CST
Good questions Dave!
Dave Beaver asked
>Do districts and Councils have an obligation to "set the example" when
>it comes to LNT or should they opt for the "convenience of units" to
I believe that Districts and Councils should "set the example" for
Troops to learn by. I know of several Districts in the Northwest that
have had active LNT training for several years. In my Council we have
not yet accepted "Universal Training" for all Troops and Leaders, maybe
someday they will. In my District I have offered to provide LNT Trainer
classes to any and all adults, hopefully we will have a good turnout in
the Spring for my LNT Trainer class. My desire is to train the District
volunteers and let those people add gentle pressure to the District
Chairs to embrace LNT practices. It may take a few years to embrace the
roll of "set the example" for LNT during District events, but it will be
The "convenience of units" would, in my mind mean that some Units would
never adopt LNT in their camping methods.
>How do we resolve the conflict between LNT ethic and large scale
>district or council events? For the sake of simplicity, let's assume
>our discussion that all ground fires are prohibited at any hypothetical
>event. Let's also assume that our mythical camporee's participants
>number in excess of 1000.
What conflicts do you expect?
I believe that any possible conflicts that may be encountered may be
relatively small and may need specific review by a LNT Master Trainer or
other knowledgeable person.
>In planning such an event, what LNT issues should be considered or
None of the LNT Principles should be discarded, we should still ask the
questions the Principles require.
Each of the seven Principles should be reviewed with respect to the
planned impact the event will generate. An evaluation of the local
environments ability to handle the expected impact will guide you in the
planning of your event. Each local outdoor activity will require: Plan
Ahead & Prepare, Travel and camp on durable surfaces, Dispose of Waste
Properly, Leave What You Find, Minimize Campfire Impacts, Respect
Wildlife and Be Considerate of Other Visitors. Each time you plan an
outdoor activity, you may develope a camp plan that uses more LNT
techniques than other times. This variation may be required due to the
location of your activity or just simply the time of the year.
Expected impacts may include: Dispose of Wastes properly. In Front
Country settings (For Scout Camporees, most common are Parks or Scout
Reservations) disposing of wastes is a little easier because of public
restrooms or latrines are generally available. But, what about wash
water? Shouldn't we dispose of that correctly? We have all seen youth
dump unfiltered wash water in to the bushes. The camporee is the perfect
opportunity to teach & demonstate the correct way of disposing of wastes
for that local environment.
Please continue looking for ways to incorporate LNT into your Troops &
If anyone has any LNT questions that I may help with, please ask.
Hopefully, my opinions have helped!
Scoutmaster Troop 533
A Good ol Raven