scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: Swim Test
Sat Feb 05 2000 - 21:43:24 CST
"if the SM did not delegate the authority to the MB counselor to sign off on
the swimmer test, the counselor's signature is invalid"
Not necessarily. How many SM's actually specifically delegate the authority
for sign-off? I think most kind of just let it happen until there is a
problem. If the SM has previously accepted this MBC's sign-off on rank
advancement swimming without comment, he has effectively "delegated" the
authority to the MBC. If he now wants to "undelegate" the authority, he can,
but NOT FOR THOSE ALREADY signed off. And it is the SM's job to make the
decision - not the SA's job, unless the SM delegated authority for such
decisions to the SA. No matter how much the SA "stands by his decision",
it's not his to make unless it was delegated to him by the SM (or if the SM
has previously allowed him to make such decisions without actually delegating
the authority). The fact that the SA was "acting SM for summer camp" does
not make him the SM, particularly for something that happened before summer
camp (when he wasn't acting SM).
The other thing that a lot of posters are reading is that the original test
(passed by MBC) was at camp. I read it otherwise, that he was practicing at
home before camp (probably in a pool). Whole different set of circumstances.
Original poster - please clarify.
The thing that bothers me the most about this is that it is being discussed
now, when summer camp happened 6 months ago. Where has the discussion been
for the last 6 months?
And it raises an important concept - the SM should be delegating the
authority, and have a HIGH LEVEL OF TRUST in the persons to whom he
delegates. All SMs should know this very early on.