scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: Swimming Test
Ken Walker (ken.walker@MSCSOFTWARE.COM
Fri Feb 04 2000 - 18:20:32 CST
I thought I was going to make it through this discussion without
responding. I "assumed" the wisdom of the group would shine through.
I don't see why there is ANY discussion on this issue at all.
Focus on what happened:
>After taking some swim lessons this summer the MB counselor, who gave the
>lessons, signed in his book (for 1st class) that he passed the BSA swimmers
>test. Two days later he failed the test at Cuyuna Boy Scout camp - attended
>with his troop. The Assistant Scoutmaster and leader at summer camp crossed
>off the signature by the MB counselor, initialed it, and wrote "failed." He
>witnessed the failed test and stands by his crossing off the signature saying
>the boy is not safe in the water.
I'm afraid I will "assume" that the MB counselor was approved by the SM to
approve/disapprove TFC swimming requirements if he was authorized to do the
same for swimming MB requirements.
So, lets generalize this situation. If a Scout is signed off as "passing"
on ANY requirement for Tenderfoot-Eagle by someone approved by the SM, BUT
later could NOT pass the same requirement, what should an adult leader do???
NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a clear violation of BSA advancement policy
(as the esteemed MR Wolf has already noted).
It might be sad to see, but we all know of situations where a boy can no
longer tie a knot, repeat proper first aid, or any host of other TFC
requirements. This is no different. The ASM was wrong, and should admit it.
IN ADDITION, think about the statement this sends to all who know what
happened. The ASM (who was not present at the original testing) has implicitly
accused the MB Counselor and/or the Scout of lying. He says the boy can't
swim today, so they must have falsified his performance when approving it two
days ago. In the absence of compelling facts that the boy DID NOT pass when
he was "signed-off", the ASM should stay out of the way.
Our very first point in the Scout Law says:"A Scout is Trustworthy".
The ASM just said: Nope, not this Scout and this MB Counselor.
Personally I would be embarrassed to be associated with this situation.
PS- The ASM is well within his authority to restrict the boy's aquatic
activities if he cannot pass the current test (as would the camp staff).
However, these are two different issues, and must be each be resolved
Ken Walker, CM P-200, ASM T-259
District Training Committee
Circle 10 Council/Great Plains District - Plano, TX
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