scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Point of Clarification RE: LE Firearms
Kip Keil (kip@VSNET.COM
Fri Feb 04 2000 - 10:59:24 CST
It seems my post to the list on the topic of Law Enforcement officers and
their weapons went a bit awry. From postings to the list in response to my
notice, as well as those sent to me privately, it seems that my real point
was obscured by my wandering. So, let me clarify, briefly.
I responded to a post by one of our fellow correspondents that those who
question whether or not a peace officer should carry his weapon at
meetings/activities of the unit should be told "GET A LIFE!!!!" The
emphasis is from the original post, not mine!
My point is that those parents are probably some of the more concerned and
caring. They take enough interest in their sons' lives and the unit to want
to know about the other people involved. For some of our units, that's a
rare commodity. Whether or not it's rare in ones unit, such parents deserve
a lot more respect than to be told "GET A LIFE!!!!" and to have their
concerns put down to trivia.
The scenario I advanced was unrealistic as to what might really happen. It
was entirely realistic, viewed as a possible thread of thought in the minds
of concerned parents. "Perception is all there is." These parents need
their concerns answered just as much as those parents whose sole concern is
whether or not Johny should wear cotton undies or flannel. And just as
pertinent to each of us.
Okay, that's an allusion to the fact that we are all in diverse locations
and units. Some of us have very little need to worry about whether our
Scouts are wearing cotton undies in February cuz it's just as dry then as in
July (areas of Desert Pacific Council come to mind). So that last paragraph
was meant to say that parents who care enough to be concerned deserve to
have those concerns treated respectfully and honestly.
As for myself: Not only was I Cub Scout and a Scout as a youth, I was a
member of two Explorer posts -- one was Mountaineering, the other, Law
Enforcement. I was also the first Junior Deputy Sheriff appointed in
southern Colorado when I moved there and found no LE Explorer post. I had
the distinct honor of being selected from a large cadre of very qualified
youth to be a volunteer dispatcher for the Arizona Department of Public
Safety. I've done similar work with three other agencies in Arizona and
California, been a dispatcher for a Sheriff's Department in Colorado and
another Utah. I've gone "ride-along" with several different departments.
Additionally, I attained some very high honors in competitive shooting: I
won numerous awards in outdoor, four-position, free, long gun (rifle),
metallic, small bore competition. At 17, I participated in a Practical
Police Combat Course with 140 peace officers (I was the only youth permitted
to participate -- and that was because of my status as junior member of the
Sheriff's Department's auxiliary). Using an accurized, GI .45, I took High
Expert, with only three others scoring better than I (and they were in the
Masters category). All that happened before I joined the Marine Corps at
the age of 22. I had the highest score of my training battalion on the
rifle range (and only two points shy of setting a new course record!). If
the USMC hadn't blown out my knee, I would probably be a peace officer now,
instead of a DBA.
Now with all that said, please understand that I'm not trying to build
fiction to make unpalletable the participation of peace officers. I was
simply and solely trying to convey that we need to understand and respect
the concerned parents. And, yes, there have been some very good responses
to the topic that do exactly that
Kip Keil - Web<>Data Manager, Utah Outdoors.com
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MC T175, MC P3055, AA Tsah Dibe Ch. El-Ku-Ta 520
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-- Kip Keil, 1998