scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: YPT: 2-deep and 1-on-1
Anthony Mako (ajmako@NLS.NET
Wed Feb 02 2000 - 08:24:09 CST
<Katherine Coates wrote>
Sorry, but you are taking a risk in assuming that as long as there are two
boys with a lone adult it is safe. There is nothing to stop the two boys
from concocting a story. And having the same story coming from two boys
makes it more believable to law enforcement. And hey, guess what? Even
your own mother won't believe YOU!
There is indeed something stopping those two boys from "concocting a story."
It's called "trust" and "respect." If adults trust and respect the youth
they work with, the youth will trust and respect the adults. Ironically,
people who prey on children use those same things to get what they want! The
difference is that an adult who is REALLY concerned about the welfare of the
youth he or she works with won't take advantage of that trust and respect.
If you work on the premise that Scouts WILL concoct a story to get you in
trouble, you won't be able to trust your Scouts. You can say you do, but
deep down inside, you won't. And that will occasionally come to the surface
and your Scouts will lose respect for you. They won't trust you.
Two adults at all times, meetings and outings included. Period, end of
story. The only time you are considered even remotely safe alone in the
presence of two boys is when one of them is your own son.
Sorry, I don't agree. I spend a lot of time and energy developing the trust
and respect of the Scouts in my troop. I also spend time and energy
developing the trust and respect of their parents. There are two basic
philosophies that help:
1) If you don't trust and respect THEM, they won't trust and respect YOU!
2) All it takes is one mistake on my part to invalidate all of my work.
Please, please for your own personal safety and reputation, do not put
yourself in a compromising position. That is what BSA means by two deep.
How many more times do they have to say it and how much further do they have
to go to make you all understand? IMHO Youth protection should really be
called "adult protection."
For some reason, there seems to be a lot of confusion on this, despite the
fact that it's quite clearly explained each time the subject comes up.
Two-Deep Leadership and Youth Protection are TWO SEPERATE CONCEPTS. Like
most BSA policies and procedures, they are designed to work well in
Two-Deep Leadership ensures that there will always be an adult who can
legally take charge of the unit when the need arises. The concept requires
each unit to have two registered adults, over the age of 21, and properly
trained. It does not specify that both adults are required to be at each
meeting. It does specify that they both be at each activity for safety and
Youth Protection ensures that 1) our adults are properly trained to handle
delicate situations involving youth; and 2) our youth are properly trained
to protect themselves. The Buddy System, which has been around for a very
long time, is a big part of that. So is the Rule of Threes.
The two concepts work hand-in-hand to ensure the safety and welfare of our
Scouts. That's our number one responsibility as Scouters. My preference is
to have at least two adults at each meeting and activity. It doesn't always
happen at weekly meetings, which is why there wouldn't be much Scouting
going on if I insisted on having two adults. I'm not worried. I have the
trust and respect of my Scouts to keep me safe. The day I start thinking my
Scouts would "concoct a story" to get me in trouble is they day I quit being
AJ Mako, Scoutmaster, Troop 381 http://www.scouts381.org/
Great Trail Council, Old Portage District