Scouts-L Mail Archive for December of 1999: Trip Permit
Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:14:42 -0800
IMHO, the two-weeks-prior requirement is really a load of old codswolop,
and totally unecessary. That requirements sounds like a good definition of
"officious", which in your case is a disincentive for adults to participate
And its ludicrous in this day and age, when business assignments oftenr
take less than two weeks from start to finish, and we are paid to do those,
and get all the best spoftware, hired help, etc..
I have done it, worst case, 24 hours in advance, via fax, with our more
pratical council. Usually its 3 days in advance, sometimes even better.
The idea behind the permit, from my ASM point of vview, is to enable the
council to see, and prod you to do, provide two deep leadership, provide a
record for tracking, ensure that drivers are sufficient and licensed, and
for water sports, a check that extra safety measures are in place.
I routinely fax in my permit, which refers to Table A, Table A which is a
list of all my troop driver info (I circle all drivers who will/may drive
this trip), and a count (sometimes conservative guestimate) of adults and
scouts, and a photocopy of my YPA card and my drivers licencse.
There is no need to have a precise head count, you often never know that
till muster time in the parking lot, as kids often get grounded or cancel
out via the no-show method, or from miscommunications etc.
P.S. I took me years before I realized I could fax it in!
P.P.S. The new Troopmaster 2000 software will print out your tour permit,
so I'm told.