Scouts-L Mail Archive for December of 1999: Re: Buddhism and Duty to God
Re: Buddhism and Duty to God
Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:02:00 -0600
When I discuss Baden-Powell with Scouters there seems to be two Baden-Powells that people talk about.
One may be defined as Baden-Powell, Chief Scout of the World. This larger than life version of Baden-Powell symbolizes everything he wanted for the movement, for himself, and for his Scouts. Ideals that, because of their nature, are out of reach of most people, but ideals we all need to be striving for as Scouts and Scouters. I think just about every Scouting organization identifies with parts of this symbol.
The other Baden-Powell was the man. The organizer who knew the practical side of trying to create an organization within the United Kindom and eventually unite a lot of organizations that had been started in a number of different countries and across a number of different cultures. This person had little influence over how the BSA was organized and run.
We have a parallel of this sort of symbolism in Christianity. Christ is the founder of Christianity, but was not physically on earth for the founding of the Church of England.
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:06:55 -0800, Mike Montalvo <mike_montalvo@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>By truncating what I wrote in your response, the meaning of my post was
>The and; was important. :)
>The main gist was that there is an inconsistency of indentifying with
>Baden-Powell on some aspects and at the same time distancing from him
>on others as evidenced by Greg Shields (official Scouts spokesman)
>comments in the media.
>I do not question your interpretation/usage, as a matter of fact, I
>kinda like it - a lot...
>Shields said the Boys Scouts of America was founded two years after
>Baden-Powell launched the Scouts in Great Britain and is a separate
>organization. ``Baden-Powell was never a member of Boy Scouts of
>America,'' Shields said.
>- Gregg Shields 8/99
>Mike Montalvo previously:
>It does not seem consistent to me that we would go to the founder of
>Scouting's views to define how the BSA interprets religious duty and;
>On a couple of other subjects such as financial structure of the BSA
>and one of the three "G"'s the BSA, the BSA official spokesperson and
>others have tried to distance themselves from Baden-Powell to the