Scouts-L Mail Archive for December of 1999: Refusing a SM Conference CAN YOU??
Refusing a SM Conference CAN YOU??
David F. Delman
Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:41:51 -0500
Hi Fellow/Fellowee Scouts-Lrs,
Great wisdom, BSA procedure knowledge, and different practices thus =
far. Hope this subject is helping the scouter, leaders in his troop
who may be reading, and some others new to the ins and outs of this =
subject. This Scouts-L discussion certainly is helping me to better =
read and reread his situation, relearn or revise my thinking and like
you offer suggestions.
SO For a little more definition from JoeA's question
< 3 Dec 1999 13:29:57 Joseph Alessi <JosephAlessi@COMPUSERVE.COM>
<Is he refusing to hold the conference or refusing to sign off on =
<"living the scout oath and law in his daily life"?
The short answer is both.
In the situation at hand, two sign offs, or checks
Reqrmt 2, (Scout Spirit
Reqrmt 6, (Participate in a Scoutmaster's Conference
are needed before the 1st Class or Life scout is allowed =
to go forward into the BoR. As many of us know by practice
the BoR would then give the scout
a>The opportunity to succeed with Reqrmt #7 and potentially #2
OR on the flip side =
b>learn from the BoR
and come back SOON to succeed at the BoR and advance
&>And as always have the TC learn from the scout, and find ways
to advise the SM-Core, and themselves.
The hold up is that the SM has refused to do #6
because (s)he won't approve #2
due to performance/behavior/?? (scout spirit) problems on =
campouts which means in the SMs mind (s)he can't do #6
which in turn, to the adults, means a BoR can't be held
to accept advancement or even to pause advancement describing or
listing to the scout well understood and agreed SM-Troop Committee =
hurtles that need improvement.
Many troops allow the SM to use #2 in this way as "THE" last =
minute catch-all whereby (s)he has infinite "sole-proprietor" =
authority over the advancement process.
YiS, IMHO, and may we each attempt to live the SO,SL,SS,SM
Mr Dave (Hawleyton, NY (Baden-Powell Council
P.S. I appologize for the weird "=3D" signs that are in this message
due to a S/W compatibility problem I have with TCU's Listserve that
has placed me into the constant Moderated Clan of Scouts-L users.=