Scouts-L Mail Archive for December of 1999: Re: Out of Council Troops must pay more?
Re: Out of Council Troops must pay more?
Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:40:43 -0600
If your council is like mine, the fees you pay do not nearly cover the actual
cost of running the camp. The camp is supported by everything from the local OA
chapter to local donations to "Friends of Scouting". The camp is staffed by
local volunteers. It's not totally unreasonable proposition that out-of-council
troops might be charged more.
Colleges do it. The U of M (in my case) is supported by local tax dollars due
to the fact that student fees really don't cover the cost of educating a student
there. Out of state students get charged more. I have not seen any camps
around here charge more for out-of-council troops
I have seen something similar, which I think is a better idea. We are in the
Viking Council. We often camp in the camps of our neighboring Indianhead
Council. However, we are not allowed to make reservations until 90 days in
advance. That still gives the local troops first crack at council facilities.
I suspect the council makes more money in the end. At 90 days it's unlikely a
local troop is going to want the facility anyway, so we're just filling empty
space, and paying for it.
Here's something to put a little different spin on my U of M example. I heard
on the news the other day that there is discussion on dropping the out-of-state
student surcharge at the "U". The reason they are considering this is that the
area is having a shortage of high skills workers. They also know that
something like 60% of people who come from out of state to go to college here in
Minesota, stay after they graduate. Maybe when your goal is to get more scouts
camping, you remove any unnecessary barriers.
Giving some priority to local troops is a reasonable thing. However, the 90 day
rule seems more in line with the mission of Scouting to me.
Joel Korczynski <JoelMarc@AOL.COM> on 11/30/99 10:07:57 AM
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Subject: Out of Council Troops must pay more?
Why does any council charge more for the same site to an out of council unit
verses an in council unit? I just had a run in with a council who wanted to
charge 150% of the normal fee just because we are out of council. Does it
cost the camp 50% more to host my unit? If so what is it that I am paying the
extra amount for? They tell me they must charge this to cover their costs.
What cost? No one could answer that one. Are we not all Scouts? Aren't we
doing this for the boy's? It seems to me that charging more for the same site
to an out of council unit is taking unfair advantage of the out council