scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Family life MB
Kip Keil (kip@VSNET.COM
Tue Nov 30 1999 - 12:37:23 CST
I've been waiting for some o' you legal types to weigh in on this. Now,
having, for a short stint, worked in Real Estate (Watch out for the
"Realtors practice law without a license" and "Lawyers practice real estate
without a license" exchange, now.) . . . Anyway, as I was saying, in Utah, a
contract has a section which defines ambiguous words, like "days". The
phrases "time is of the essence" and "timely performance" aren't defined
there, cuz they're defined by law. And one could say that this FLMB 90 day
requirement (#3) should be examined in this light.
If I apply the common legal definition for Req. 3, I explicate the
requirement to read, in part, "... and do them for 90 banking business
days." "Banking business days" are Monday through Friday, except for those
holidays recognized by the banking industry. The banking industry in Utah
recognizes 15 legal holidays spread, more or less, uniformly throughout the
year. The financial year is 52 weeks, and it is also 360 calendar days, by
Here's the math:
Remove weekend days: 360 - (52 * 2) = 256 days.
Remove banking holidays: 256 - 15 = 241
Distribute the days uniformly across the calendar year into calendar weeks:
241 / 52 = 4.635
So there are 4.635 countable days in a calendar week.
Determine number of weeks required (allowing every countable day): 90 /
4.635 = 19.42 weeks.
Convert to calendar days: 19.42 * 7 = 135.94 days.
By these terms, clearly defensible before a trustee or in a court, one could
permit a Scout to count every successive day (rather than iteration of duty
cycle) and still not sign off Req. 3 until 135 days 22 hours 33 minutes and
36 seconds after the Scout began this requirement.
Oh, dang it! I just realized that I forgot to allow for ten paid vacation
days, plus five sick days, and two personal days. Oh, and what about the
Family Leave Act?!?!?! Now I have to take out another twelve weeks (and
that's variable, you know).
Okay, here's the math (compressed form):
( 90 / ( ( 241 - ( ( 12 * 5 ) + 10 + 5 +2 ) ) / 52 ) ) * 7 = 199 days, 18
hours, 8 minutes, 46.8 seconds in contiguous calendar reckoning from start
of Req. 3 until it can be signed off. So, it only takes two-thirds of a
year to complete this requirement.
My-oh-my, what's a FLMBC to do?????
Oh, wait: All of that math takes as a foundation that a financial
institution is involved in the transaction. Just don't allow the kid to
earn any money or receive an allowance, and you can cut out the bank. That
means you could ignore the "banking business day" definition and go with 90
calendar days! My, that's so much simpler!! . . . In fact, maybe we could
just assume that any compensation the Scout receives is entirely unrelated
to Req. 3 of FLMB (let's not bring up the conflict this raises with PMMB).
[CAVEAT: Recognizing that some of you will not recognize my droll sense of
humor: Laughter, chuckling, or just small smile is warranted at this point.
Now hit the [delete] key and get back to work. ;-) ]
Kip Keil - Web<>Data Manager, Utah Outdoors.com
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-- Kip Keil, 1998
From: Scouts-L Youth Group List [mailto:Scouts-L@LISTSERV.TCU.EDU]On
Behalf Of WAHowland@AOL.COM
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Family life MB
I vote for the three month period. If you do a chore daily, every other day,
or weekly for three months, that's the 90 days.