scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: CS/BS Training and Webelos - "The Continuum"
Daniel D. Hammond, Sr (hammonddL@USWEST.NET
Fri Nov 26 1999 - 14:12:12 CST
Rik Bergethon wrote:
Too many times the WDL is the parent of
one of the boys in the den and has moved up through the
his/her son from Tiger Cubs, thus took only the basic cub
training, three or four years ago. Should we require more,
Webelos leader training? In this Webelos to Scout transition
recently did, some would suggest the WDL should go through
portion of, if not the entire training, for Scoutmaster
We need to be sure that all members of our program are
"trained" in what the rest of the program does to achieve
the aims of Scouting.
I try to include "training" of this sort in everything I
do. I talk about the "Continuum of Scouting" from Tiger Cub
to Eagle Scout whenever I talk to parents at a school night
(as District Membership Chairman I did about 15 of these
this fall), whenever I train leaders at CSLBT, WLOT, Den
Chief training, and Roundtable and will continue to do so.
I also work on this as part of the District Committee. I
try to get Commissioners, Program guys and Membership guys
to work together on this. I talk about, and try to live,
the Continuum. I try to encourage other volunteers to see
that the various parts of our program are all tied
together. Each feeds and nurtures another part of the
I run into many volunteers that tend to be very parochial in
their views. They feel that the only part of the program
that has any value is the portion with which they are
involved. More often than not, these are some guys that
have been around a long time, and no one will challenge
their opinions and practices. I try to talk calmly and
intelligently with them and get them to see that we all have
a part to play in building boys.
I agree with Rik in that I believe we need to get leaders to
more training than just Basic. How much do we "require"
them to do? If I were "King of Scouts" every leader would
take CSLBT, SMF, WLOT, and Wood Badge. But we all know that
getting leaders to even one of these can be challenging.
Here's where I tend to depart from conventional wisdom and
practice. I have tried very hard to get training out to
leaders when and where it's convenient for THEM. I have met
with pretty good success, at least with Cub Scout training.
I haven't yet conducted any personal coaching sessions, but
I have one working for a leader that can't find time for
training at any of our sessions. I'll do it whenever that
leader says they are ready for me to do it.
I guess what I'm after here is that we need to use some
basic sales skills and handle the objections leaders have
for not coming to training. The usual ones are "I can't
make it that day/weekend/evening." or "That's too much time
for me to spend away from work." By providing multiple
opportunities for training we can help get it to the leaders
that need it. Of course this may not work for some courses,
SMF immediately comes to mind, but it can work for many.
Additionally, I'm planning a training session for Boy Scout
leaders and Webelos leaders that will focus specifically on
this topic. I'm planning this in conjunction with my DE as
part of my duties as Membership Chairman. I'm in the
process of finalizing the learning objectives which my DE
I figure that the more we can get leaders from all portions
of the Continuum to know about how they fit in with other
parts, the better we can do in getting new boys and, more
importantly, keeping them in the program.
Flexibility. Innovation. Creativity. I believe that these
are the keys to getting more and more Scouters to understand
Yours in ScOUTing,
Daniel D. Hammond, Sr.
CM Pack 225 and Black Hills District Committee
I used to be an Owl (W-CS-44) Working my Ticket
"A fisherman does not bait his hook with food he likes.
He uses food the fish likes. So with boys." --Lord Robert