scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Opinion - CS/BS Program/Training Failure (long)
Jeffry Smith (jsmith@ALUM.MIT.EDU
Thu Nov 25 1999 - 14:07:13 CST
Lots of good discussion, so I'll through my 2 cents in (if it's worth
that much). I admit to a Boy Scout prejudice - that's the program I've
been with for many years. However, I've tried to familarize myself with
the Webelos program, as that's the tie between Boy Scouts and Cub
My observation over the years has been that the majority of the
transition issues have not been with the boys. With a well-run
youth-led program on the BS side, they boys WANT to participate - they
have fun! However, I have seen two common problems with the adults
crossing over (both leaders and parents). Problem one is the "I'm a
trained Scout Leader, I know exactly how to run the program."
Unfortunately, they know the Cub program, not the BS program. They are
very different, especially the youth leadership. Problem two is the
"It's youth led, I don't need to do anything." Oops, not true. While
the youth do a lot, the adults: 1) train the youth, 2) provide
resources the youth can't (driving, signing checks, etc), and 3) provide
oversight to ensure the program stays on track and safe.
Part of my Wood Badge ticket was developing a transition program for the
adults. Basically, during the Webelos troop visit, we'd get all the
Webelos parents and leaders aside, and teach them: 1) what the BS
program was (lots of cribbing from Fast Start), 2) how our troop ran,
and 3) what the Adult roles in scouting were. Emphasis on roles.
Scout Leaders (SM & ASMs), Committee roles, MB councilor. Won't claim
it solved all the problems, but it hopefully reduced them.
As an aside, I've always emphasized to the troops I'm affiliated with on
the payback of paying for adult (and youth) training. Never expect
someone to do well in a job that they're not trained to work in.
I used to be a Fox
Knotty Italian Foxes, W3-803-92
Eagle class of '76