scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Consistant "rules" of Scouting (2/2)
Mike Montalvo (mike_montalvo@YAHOO.COM
Thu Nov 25 1999 - 10:20:25 CST
Ed asked: Does a pro need to follow the same rules
that we teach in Boy Scouts?
Mike Walton responded (in part):
Does our national-level professionals have to be such
"models"? No. They don't. Why? Because we down here,
where it counts, don't see them much, if
at all. They are more administrators and managers of
our overall program.
They are still examples to their volunteers that they
work alongside, and should still maintain the ideas of
the Scout Oath and Law in their daily lives.
Mike, I have a great deal of respect for you, but I do
not agree with national BSA professionals not having
to be "these role models".
Especially Chief Scout Executives (Scout comes before
Executive as you pointed out to me in the past...)
whose image and letter begins the current Scout manual
on page iii.
Do BSA professionals have to subscribe to the Scout
Oath and Law? Does being a professional and
administrator give them the leeway to act outside of
National Scout professionals are not just "managers
When Jere Ratcliffe lectures Japanese scouts (March
98)on gun safety he is acting in the capacity of a
professional AND a role model.
When "professionals" don't follow their own mandated
policies and procedures for maintaining standards when
dismissing individuals they are being neither
professional nor scoutlike.
When a past BSA president (Richard Leet) tries to
dismiss a 59 year Scouters statement in court
testimony due to that Scouter no longer being involved
in Scouting PRIOR to even informing him of the fact
and PRIOR to an appeal process is that being
"professional" and scoutlike?
When these professionals and administrators supply the
PR spokesman (Greg Shields) with information that is
not true nor properly considered to justify the
dismissal of an individual are they being
When councils consciously disregard established
by-laws and rules of participation to squelch unwanted
thoughts (See Bill MacLeay/former Green Mountain
Council President) is this being "professional"? (From
my understanding, national professionals were heavily
involved in this...)
There are more examples.
Should BSA professionals be exempt from being
Trustworthy, Honest and Scoutlike?
Even if they are, wouldn't being a "professional"
overlap somewhere and prevent many of these actions
Mike Walton also said:
"Two standards?? Yep. That's how *I* see it. We -- the
volunteers of the BSA wanted it that way, through our
inaction and action. So as my mother would say, "now
we stew in it."
... and this hurts Scouting and it's credibility.
The public microscope is on the BSA right now, it
can't just be "business as usual".
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