scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: an off list Eagle Question.
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blackeagle@SCOUTER.NET
Sat Nov 20 1999 - 15:00:52 CST
Paul Wolf forwarded a question from an off-list Scouter to us:
>An Anonymous Scouter wrote:
>> Is there a new national rule that Boys working on their Eagle
>> project can no longer ask businesses to donate materials? Our
>> district advancement chair told us that this evening. We were told
>> from now on fundraisers would have to be done to pay for materials.
>> The past practice has been to ask hardware stores, lumber yards, etc.
>> for the materials.
I agree with Paul that although there's NOT a national policy prohibiting
Eagle Scout candidates from soliticing businesses for materials for Eagle
Scout service projects, many Councils will ask their Eagle candidates NOT to
ask for such materials in the conduct of their Eagle Scout service projects.
The basie reason, as explained here before, is that somehow "a donation of
materials to help out Life Scout Gregory Johns" becomes later "a donation of
materials to help out the Boy Scouts." Professionals have it hard enough
just getting by all of the "gatekeepers" in places like home improvement
warehouses and paint stores....only to be told incorrectly that "We've
already donated $400 in materials to the Scouts-- I wish you people get your
act together and talk with each other!" before being shown the exit door.
My recommendation is that if a Life Scout needs materials in order to
accomphish the task at hand, that the organization or group in which will
benefit from the Life Scout's leadership/service project take the lead on
obtaining those materials, with NO CONNECTION to the "Scouts." To them,
the Life Scout/Eagle Scout candidate is no more than a private contractor
taking on a project using their materials and in many cases, their people to
get it done. If an Eagle Scout candidate MUST solitic materials for a
project, he should make it clear to the company or business that he is
getting the materials for HIS SERVICE PROJECT and not to benefit the
"Scouts" as it is against the "rules dealing with the service project" that
the project cannot "benefit the Scouts" in any way.
Any materials left over from the service project should either be donated to
another local organization which can use them or back to the businesses the
materials were obtained through. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should the Eagle
Scout candidate, his family, or the unit he belongs to retain ANY PART of
the service project's materials, even if the unit or family can purchase
them or use them. The plan for what to do with "leftover material" should
be included in the Eagle Scout Service Project's outline and if neccessary,
explained by the candidate before the project is to begin.
Also, the Eagle Scout candidate should inform his District's Executive or
Executive team member with a listing of those businesses he DID receive even
a board of plywood from, so that the Executive can possibly followup (and
perhaps avoid visiting) with those companies or firms.
And by ALL MEANS, the Eagle Scout candidate should send a "Thank you note"
to the firms whom have helped him out....and let the community know what
good community members they are by their support of his Eagle Scout service
project. Many a good firm will gladly "do it again" if they know that some
kind of free "PR" for their firm will come of it. Many a good firm will
refuse to do such "acts of kindness and goodwill" if they don't get even a
hand-written note of thanks from the candidate or the beneficiaries of the
Hope this additional information helps out!
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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