scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Community service projects...
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@PIPELINE.COM
Wed Nov 17 1999 - 18:41:09 CST
> From: JosephAlessi@compuserve.com [mailto:JosephAlessi@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 1:13 PM
> Well, while I agree with Bruce's position that service projects can count as
> troop activities, I feel that he picked a poor example. In my mind, an
> Eagle project *IS NOT* a troop or patrol activity, in that it should not be
> organized, directed, and planned by the troop or patrol leadership. An
> effective Eagle project is planned and directed by the candidate himself,
> and the resources he uses can come from a variety of places, and not just
> his troop or patrol. Of course, it is community service, and should count
> as service time for the individuals participating.
> Just my point of view.
Well, I struggled (but not for too long) to find a relevant "anti double
dipping" example and that's the first one I cam up with. I'm not sure a
patrol or troop activity has to be one planned by the patrol or troop. I
think it is one attended by the patrol or troop. A patrol can go to a movie
(not much planning there) and it would count. When it comes to an Eagle
project I think it would depend on how the candidate solicited support. If he
was given permission to ask the troop, as a group, for help, or if the troop
puts it on the troop calendar as a service project, then I believe it would be
a troop project for the First Class count. But I can understand opposing
points of view.
Bruce E. Cobern
Founders District, Queens Council, NY