scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Arrow of Light
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Wed Nov 17 1999 - 13:45:24 CST
Now that the thread has almost died it's natural death I just had to add on one last thought :-) . Having been Webelos Den support for two years when my husband was Den Leader and now having a Life Scout (14 � yr old son on his way to Eagle) and seeing several of the other boys we "brought along" in the Webelos den stick with Scouting and be well on their way to Eagle, perhaps I can lend a bit of perspective you may not have yet.
I couldn't tell from the thread (or I missed it) whether you have any experience at the Boy Scout level with boys you have been working with since early Cub days. But here is my opinion from a "tiny bit" further along the Scouting trail vantage point - please rethink the attitude of "responses for ME and against ME" and "I did not concede because this has been MY standard policy all along."
This is not really about YOU. This is about helping boys to become men in the best way possible with all of the values and skills Scouting has to offer. If you set up arbitrary rules and roadblocks that have nothing to do with the Scouting program itself (IE your rule of ONE sign off a week), you may create an adversarial situation with strife and angst where none needs exist and you may miss the absolute JOY of seeing wild and incorrigible Cubs become reliable, responsible young men with self-directed goals. No one is pushing my son towards Eagle - he wants it for himself. And I like to think it is because he got the right mix of direction and freedom to pursue the Scouting trail.
Please put a little thought into your perspective and where your fine efforts are leading to. It takes tremendous dedication and large amounts of energy (at LEAST an hour a week :-) ) to lead a Webelos den and face the weekly challenges. I commend you for this and thank you for your choice to spend your time in this way. All of us are better off in this country because of people like you. But don't lose sight of the bigger picture, the larger goal and, most important, the JOY in helping boys grow to men. Find ways to make this the most positive of experiences for BOTH you and the boys and you will be well rewarded. Make sure it is more fun than rules and you will all benefit. After all, if you are not having fun, what's the point?
BTW, I have a 10 � year old also who HAS earned his AOL and is still with the Pack until the crossover in January because it's where he wants to be for now. So I have been on both sides of the fence. Hopefully, he, too, will decide to "go for his Eagle".
I wish you all the best in your Scouting endeavors and hope that you will have the opportunity to experience the thrill of seeing this boy you are working with continue his Scouting and become a fine young man. Support him in HIS Scouting goals and YOU can take great satisfaction in your contribution to his growth.
Just a grateful mother
>>> Ken Faris <kfaris@FLASH.NET> 11/16/99 07:00PM >>>
First of all let me start by saying THANKS to everyone for their thoughtful,
honest, responses. As of now the issue is settled. I received many
responses both for me, against me, and those with no answer but general
support. I came to the following conclusions.
The Scouter has probably met the time requirements (Registered = Time) So I
conceded that issue.
The following issues I did not concede on: All requirements have not been
signed off on by me (Webelos Den Leader)
This Scouter or any other may come to me with one of the requirements each
week, I will go over the requirements with them and then sign off if they
meet the requirements. It has been my standard policy all along to not just
sign off on a multitude of things at one time.
Since this Scouter has four things left to be signed off on, then it will
take until almost Christmas to do so.
He will then receive his AOL at the January pack meeting, the next normally
scheduled award ceremony.
The next scheduled bridging ceremony will be held in February at the Blue &
Gold. It is his choice weather to attend or not. The Boy Scouts have
advised him that they think this is his best course of action. That he
could bridge before then but that the "pomp and circumstance" will be worth
Again thanks for the input,
East Texas Area Council