scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: When is a CSP?
Tue Nov 16 1999 - 15:00:24 CST
Rob, et al:
NCAC may be the patch of the year Council, but not of the month. ;-)
The NCAC "standard" CSP has been around since 1974. NCAC has also
issued a 25th & 30th anniv. patch for the Goshen Scout Camp, and is now
in the sixth year of a planned seven year cycle of "limited edition"
(10,000) annual CSPs showing National monuments and government buildings
- but these were to generate money for Council programs with the total
net proceeds being retained within Council. [NCAC serves 65,000 youth]
However, the patches I mentioned are being made by the Supply Division
in small batches (1,000) for sale by the National Scout Shop with only
the contracted percentage of the net profits going to Council. Its not
even clear that the Council approved the design.
Most of the patches (90+ percent) were apparently shipped out of Council
before anyone heard about them. These recent issues are now being
offered on eBay at $10-13, that's why the reference to possible insider
Robert Lewis wrote:
> NCAC has been known in the past to in a way be a patch of the month council.
> They have had hundreds of variants of their CSPs. They are not the only
> ones to do this though. As for when a CSP becomes a CSP, well, I believe
> that most collectors will agree that they become CSP's when they are made.
> I know that all collectors will agree that the value of the patch decreases
> when it is sewed onto a shirt.
> So, I guess that I am saying that once the design is approved by the
> council, and produced, the patch is a CSP.