scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: backpacking merit badge
Paul S. Wolf (PaulWolf@CUYCTYENGINEERS.ORG
Tue Nov 09 1999 - 14:21:55 CST
Len Christiansen wrote:
> Bob and Rusty Taylor wrote:
> > sometimes I feel like I need a lawyer to interpret merit badge
> > requirement 10
> > 3 trips of 3 days and 2 nights each w/ different campsites
> > for each night, each trip covering 15 miles.
> > requirement 11a
> > assist in planning and take a 5 day trek w/ at least 3
> > different campsites, and covering 30 miles.
> > can a Scout use the same trip for 10 and 11a? specifically, we have
> > a boy who has done a 50 miler, 6 days and 5 nights on the trail, who
> > wants to use the 50 miler for 2 of the 3 day trips in 10, and then
> > use the 50 miler for 11a. ok or not?
> Requirement 10. "Take three backpacking treks ..." Does what the Scout
> wants to do with the 50 miler fill this requirement? No, that is only
> one trek. Two more treks are required to complete requirement 10.
> Requirement 11(a) "In addition, assist in planning and take a
> backpacking trek of at least 5 days ..." Does that sound like he can
> use one of the previous three trips to meet this requirement? No. It
> clearly says "In addition." He must do this longer trek in addition to
> the three shorter treks.
> You may allow the 50 miler he has already taken as one of the four
> required treks. Some will say this trek may only be allowed if he had
> been assigned a mb counselor and was actively working on the badge
> before he took this trek.
Len is correct in all he said, EXCEPT THE LAST SENTENCE. There is NO
requirement that the trips be taken after the Scout has been assigned a
counselor, as long as the trip was taken while registered as a Boy
Scout. Anyone who makes such a requirement has added to the
requirements. It's no different than a boy who has an existing Stamp
Collection asking for a counselor for that merit badge. He wouldn't be
told "OK Now go out and start a new collection"
Also note that there are actually FIVE treks required. In addition to
the three 15 mile trips in requirement 10, and the 50 mile trip in
requirement 11, there is a 2 mile trip, in requirement 9d.
The Backpacking requirements are quite similar to those for Cycling,
which read, in part:
8. Avoiding main highways, take two rides of ten miles
each, two rides of fifteen miles each, and two rides
of twenty-five miles each. ...
9. After fulfilling requirement 8, lay out on a road
map a 50-mile trip. Stay away from main highways.
Using your map, make this ride in 8 hours.
In this case, the Scout DOES have to do the 50 miler AFTER the shorter
trips. Although the Backpacking requirement doesn't specifically say
so, that's the intent.
Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP http://www.usscouts.org