scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Who "owns" a Troop?
Ted Burton (scouter@CONSULTBURTON.COM
Tue Nov 02 1999 - 23:10:39 CST
At 20:13 -0500 on 11/2/99, PGerlach@AOL.COM spake about Re: Who
"owns" a Troop? thus:
> "THE UNITS BELONG TO YOUR ORGANIZATION
> Your organization has the Scouting program on charter from the
>Boy Scouts of America, but the Scouting units and thier leaders
>belong to the organization and are part of it's "family". It is
>most important that this relationship be understood. The local
>council exists only to support your organization and to help it be
>From page 12:
> "PACKS, TROOPS, TEAMS, AND POSTS ARE OWNED, OPERATED, AND
> ADMINISTERED BY...
> Community-based organizations whose objectives, mission, and methodolgies
> are compatible with those of the BSA".
>There is similar language in "Troop Committee Guidebook" & several
>recent editions of "The Scoutmaster's Handbook". It seems fairly
>clear that the unit is an arm of the CO, and has no seperate legal
I would submit that these publications are trying to market an
administrative scheme, and are not intended to be read as legal
documents. They are trying to make the point that the Scout Unit is
associated with the charter organization, exists as a BSA unit by
reason of a charter, and is not a creature of the Council. Units
belong the the charter organization in a political sense. If these
were intended as legal documents, then "their leaders belong to the
organization" in violation of the Constitutional Amendment which
prohibits people being owned by other people, commonly called slavery.
For further example, one quoted item speaks of Troops being
'administered' by the charter organization, when we know that we
teach and teach that the boys run their own program.
To cite these publications as statements concerning the ownership of
physical assets and funds during the operation of the local unit, is
to cite them out of context.
Which does not change the fact that there are many good reasons why
assets of any particular value should in fact be owned by the charter
partner if it is willing to cooperate, for the sake of stability in
the program and the avoidance of confusion attendant upon the comings
and goings of particular adult leaders.
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