scouts-l Mail Archive for November of 1999: Re: Who "owns" a Troop?
Rick Cordray (rickc@IMAGE-TECH.COM
Tue Nov 02 1999 - 01:08:22 CST
My understanding is that a Troop or Pack is not a legal entity. It is not
incorporated and has no legal existance of its own. It only exists because
the chartering organization has signed a charter with BSA and therefore has
the right and responsibility to recruit leaders and set up a unit to carry
out its youth program goals by using the BSA programs. In my view, your
example probably couldn't happen, or at least wouldn't stand up in court,
because a troop committee could not legally be on the title of the vehicle.
I recently had this confirmed by discussions with our council. A parent
wanted to donate a trailer for troop use and get a tax deduction. When we
discussed this with the council, we were told the donors could donate it to
our chartering organization (a church), or it could remain in private hands.
If the donors wanted a tax deduction, they would have to donate it to the
church. If they wanted it to be used exclusively by the troop, they would
have to negotiate that with the church.
A troop only appears to be an independent organization. In reality, our
troop is something like a subcommittee or youth group of the church. Like
many such troops, we have very limited direct interaction with the church,
and feel and act like we are wholly independent from them. But in fact,
troops exist to provide a service to their chartering organization's
community, even if the troop does so with little or no supervision or
oversight from the chartering organization.
Yours in Scouting,
ASM, Troop 573, Woodinville, WA
District Chairman, North Lakes District
Chief Seattle Council
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:10:29 -0800
> From: Ted Burton <scouter@CONSULTBURTON.COM>
> Subject: Re: Who "owns" a Troop?
> Perhaps the clearest example of this principle would be in a motor
> vehicle title state. Suppose I buy a motor vehicle, say a van or
> school bus, for use of the Troop. The State motor vehicle title is in
> the name of the Troop Committee of Troop 162. By law that vehicle
> belongs to the Troop Committee. Say it is titled to Troop 162. Then
> it belongs to Troop 162.