Scouts-L Mail Archive for September of 1999: Re: Wicca and beyond
Re: Wicca and beyond
Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:55:32 -0700
At 16:54 -0400 on 9/6/1999, Steve Hoar spake about Wicca and beyond thus:
Scouting world-wide includes quite a variety of faiths, to mention
the most significant, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism,
Jainism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Confucianism ... and many minor
religions, most of whom would not like being called minor.
>1. Are there any(religions) that we in scouting are willing to draw
>the line at where they may not be compatible with the goals and aims
I believe that Scouting's view of religion is not that it will
replace the Oath and the Law, but that it will reinforce them. Where
a religious belief would contradict that Oath and the Law, then the
boy does not belong in Scouting.
>2. Are we open to anyone doing anything as long as it is called a religion?
The law has to deal with this issue all the time, as we have freedom
of religion, so we need to define what is the "religion" that we are
free to have? A belief system without spirituality and without a
sense of moral duty, and without a deity, would have trouble passing
muster as a "religion" with me.
>3. What, if any, practices would we not be willing to tolerate?
Any which violated civil or criminal law, or the Scout Oath or Law.
>4. Can the rules of scouting prohibit a scout from practicing his
>religion in a scouting environment?
If it would violate civil or criminal law, or the Scout Oath or Law.
>5. How do you handle a situation where one persons religious
>practices are found to be very offensive to another person?
A value judgment needs to be made whether the person offended is too
easily offended, or the practitioner is too insensitive to the needs
of other Scouts, that is, is disrespectful of their beliefs. There is
nothing in any of the religions/ethical systems I mentioned that
should be offensive to a another Scout under Scouting circumstances.
It is not that the other Scout must join in, only that the other
Scout must be respectful.
I can say that I have met people from within one or another flavor of
Christianity, who are extremely intolerant of another flavor of the
same. It is a character failing on their part, that they are not
willing to concede the good faith and sincerity of the others.
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