Scouts-L Mail Archive for September of 1999: Re: Multiple registering in two troops (Was Two Venture Crews)
Re: Multiple registering in two troops (Was Two Venture Crews)
Settummanque, the blackeagle
Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:05:14 CDT
Sean Coleman asked on Scouts-L (with only deletions for space):
>I am actually very interested in allowing scouts with disabilities to be
>able to register with two troops, one that was mainstreamed and one >geared
towards scouts with disabilities.
>Which story do I believe, you can or can't multiple register in two
In GENERAL terms, a Scout can only register ONCE. That Troop becomes the
"Troop of record" for everything: advancement, tenure, and OA camping days.
A Scout, however can PARTICIPATE in as many Troops or Teams as he has time
to do so; but he is REGISTERED in ONE TROOP.
This has become a massive accounting problem, Sean, in the past few years,
and its NOT to prevent you from doing what you have described wanting to do.
The problem has been that with Scouts being registered twice or three times
(even as "multiples"), that somehow the "accounting for every Scout" gets
messed up and people tore hair from their heads trying to account for that
one or seven or thirty-seven Scouts that appear on two or three or five
charters at the same time.
(and while those small numbers don't really mean a whole lot to us
volunteers, Sean; a number as small as 35 or 12 or 9 can mean the difference
between "meeting a critical achievement" and "failing in meeting a critical
acheivement" for a honest professional. That's why many field professionals
would rather you NOT "multiple" because it makes the counting easier!)
There is NOTHING that prevents your Scout son, for instance, from being
registered with Troop 000, which is a "mainstreamed Troop" in New City, and
participating with that Troop AND with Troop 999, which is a "special needs
Troop" in neighboring Hillsdale. His advancement is recorded by both
Troops, but only Troop 000 sends the advancement report to the Cardinal
Council for posting, because that's the Troop your son's registered in.
Additionally, there's nothing that says that the Scoutmaster of Troop 999
cannot conduct a Scoutmasters' Conference with your son or that Troop 999
cannot hold a Board of Review for your son for First Class; just that the
ADVANCEMENT REPORT, signed of course by those three or more members of Troop
999's Troop Committee that participated in the Board, is sent to the "home
Troop" for posting.
This special aspect of BSA's membership works wonders, especially for
families that are split by family or special circumstances. For instance,
Dad lives in Minnesota and Mom lives in Kentucky. Scout Son is a member of
Troop 000 in New City, but comes to Minnesota to live with Dad and new Mom.
While he's there, he attends school and church and volla!! That Church has a
Scout Troop...Troop 111. He participates with that Troop, but ALL of his
advancement is sent to the Scoutmaster of Troop 000 where it is posted to
the Cardinal Council's records. He is still covered by the BSA's insurance;
he is still a registered member of the Troop until recharter time in which
he (and both adults) can choose to register him (and transfer him) to the
Troop in Minnesota OR to re-register him with the Troop in Kentucky. But
he's NOT a transferee.
The ONLY time a transfer sheet should be turned in is when the Scout
PERMANENTLY leaves one community for another, as when the Scout in the
second example decides to live with Dad and New Mom permanently. It's
ALWAYS a good idea to fill out a transfer form when doing these kinds of
"interstate moves" because it gives both Scoutmasters and Troop Committees
some idea of the Scouts' progress (and therefore expectations). But its NOT
required to be turned in unless the Scout will be PERMANENTLY (or as
permanently as we can be nowadays!) relocated in the new community. The new
Local Council should receive that form and a copy of the registration card
as soon as possible.
So, both BSA national directors are correct, Sean and as I've stated
previously, the BSA membership card is transferrable to all corners of the
earth and all BSA units no matter where they are at or who charters them. As
long as the Scout is registered, he can participate with both, three or as
many units as he has time and energy to do so.
But he is REGISTERED ONLY WITH ONE TROOP to keep the numbers consistant and
to aviod problems down the road with "was that badge recorded with Troop 000
or Troop 999"?
Your Council Scout Executive should be willing to work with you on this
matter, and should be familiar with being registered one place and being
active in two places at the same time.
Oh, and who "counts the "active in Troop and Patrol" time?? BOTH units can.
It just takes a little thing called "communication" between both units to
ascertain his level and intensity of activity within either or both units!
Hope this helps out!
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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