Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: order of the arrow question
order of the arrow question
Dalton, Lloyd P.
Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:01:00 -0400
When I was on our Lodge's Unit Elections team, this situation came
up on one occasion and was dealt with fairly well (I believe):
While the votes were being counted, the troop proceeded with the
regular program. The scoutmaster approached the election team members and
told us quietly that one of the candidates had not behaved according to the
O&L, and therefore was ineligible. He told us he wanted to deal with the
scout individually and not single him out in front of the group. As it
turned out, the scout did not recieve enough votes to be elected, so no one
was the wiser.
My only concern with doing this is that it requires the SM to do a
thorough job of explaining to the scout why the decision was made.
Furthermore, we as the election team had no way of knowing whether the SM's
decision had been made public to the troop committee (or to anyone, for that
matter). Even though it's the SM's call, any intelligent SM should know
that decisions like this can cause problems down the road with parents and
I believe the OA election team should inquire with the scoutmaster
well in advance of the election. Likewise, if a scoutmaster considers
exercising the power of veto, it should be as a last resort after talking
with the scout in question and probably the scout's parents as well.
I recall reading a bulletin about a new troop leadership position
being created--that of OA representative. After witnessing the way many
troops are uninformed and/or misinformed of exactly how the OA should
function, I think such a position would be of real benefit--situations like
this are a good example of how a bit of knowledge and communication
ahead-of-time can help resolve and avoid unpleasantness.
SM, Troop 28
St. Cloud, MN
>>Yes The SM can consider anything he/she deems appropriate when determining
>>suitability for OA Election. However, the SM would do well to trust the
>>boys judgment in most matters, the exception is, of course, "behaved in a
>>manner Not consistent with the scout O&L"
>>My question is: Does the Scoutmaster remove the name before or after
>>There are definite pluses and minuses each way.