Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: order of the arrow question
Re: order of the arrow question
Bruce E. Cobern
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:35:02 -0400
> From: Scouts-L Youth Group List [mailto:Scouts-L@listserv.tcu.edu]On
> Behalf Of Musto, Neal (NIDDK)
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:04 AM
> shouting). Does this mean that the SM can disapprove a scout who
> meets all the
> other requirements (rank & 15 days camping).
Unless he has SM approval, he has NOT met ALL the requirements.
> Does his layer of judgment on the
> qualifications of the scout factor into this. For example, if a first class
> scout with 15 days of camping is felt to be too immature, should or
> could the SM
> hold him for a year until the next election cycle. If a scout
> eligible for OA
> has behaved in a manner Not consistent with the scout O&L could or
> should he be
> held back for a cycle.
The simple answer to these questions is that yes, the SM CAN withhold his
approval and not allow the Scout to be considered eligible for election.
However, he must do this BEFORE the election. He cannot wait to see if the
Scout is elected and then decide he does not approve.
The more difficult question is whether he SHOULD withhold his approval. I
think that in almost all cases the SM should have enough faith in the members
of his troop to allow them to make the determination. They actually know each
other far better than the SM knows them. But there might be circumstances
when it is appropriate for the SM to withhold approval. He is certifying the
Scout's Scout Spirit when he approves, NOT whether he believes the Scout would
make a good Arrowman. Thus, unless the SM would do the same thing when the
Scout was ready for the next rank, i.e. not sign off the Scout Spirit
requirement, and be able to make that decision stand up under appeal, I do not
believe it would be appropriate to withhold approval.
Bruce E. Cobern
Suanhacky Lodge #49, Queens Council, NY