Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: Historical digression : 1776 and all that
Re: Historical digression : 1776 and all that
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:36:26 -0400
As we were saying: perspective counts. (g)
Thanks, Phil. 1812 is NOT one of my periods of interest (obviously).
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Philip Conroy wrote:
> Sorry to argue this one out but I am a student of Canadian History (it was
> my favorite subject in High School).
> Th US did not win the War of 1812-14.
> The stated aims of the (then) U.S. government was to overtake the British
> colonies of Upper Canada (now Ontario) and Lower Canada (now Quebec). It
> never happened.
> US troops did capture the main colony, York (now Toronto) but left after
> the fight in return British troops and Canadian militia returned the favor
> by attacking Washington and burning out the White House.
> US Navel forces burned the only British schooner on the Great Lakes, HMS
> Nancy, in return the Nancy's crew and British troops from Mischlimaclinac
> (I'm not sure if I spelled that right) captured two of the three ships (one
> being the USS Tigeress) that had attacked the Nancy.
> Most of the war was evenly fought, but there was no clear winner. The
> British had no interest to stir up the US, and Canadian settlers (loyal to
> the crown) only wanted to return to the homesteads they fought for. Which
> they did. As I said eariler Ontario and Quebec are part of Canada.
> The actual border between the US and what is now Canada was agreed upon in
> At 04:31 PM 20/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Ian N Ford wrote:
> >> the American kids who attend English schools have been surprised by the
> >> often sympathetic way that we view the " little storm in a teacup " in
> >> Boston.
> >Errr -- most of that war was fought in Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania
> >and the Carolinas. Boston had the teaparty, but the middle colonies got
> >the clean-up detail. :)
> >A History professor I knew once commented: the only reason in the
> >world the Americans won that war was because England had been tactless
> >enough to win her last war with France. France therefore was ripe for
> >revenge and seized the chance to annoy England by supporting the
> >Colonists. We'd have lost the War of 1812 if England hadn't been more
> >worried about Napoleon.
> Phil Conroy,
> Calgary, Alberta