Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: Difference between a Venture Boy Scout and Venturing ?
Re: Difference between a Venture Boy Scout and Venturing ?
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:17:04 EDT
Your descriptions of the Venture patrol and Venturing is exactly correct.
The Venture patrol is an older boy patrol in your troop and a Venturing Crew
is a separate organization with a distinctive green Venturing shirt and its
own advancement program (however young men who join Venturing Crews as First
Class scouts can continue working on their Eagle).
There are some advantanges to having a Venture patrol in your troop as you
have listed. However, sometimes we forget that the Scouting program is for
the youth and that they should have the opportunity to choose whether they
want to remain in the troop or go on to a crew. Let me try and explain by
using our troop as an example. Our troop is a pretty big troop with 70+
scouts registered. We have been running a pretty successful Venture program
in the troop and have two Venture patrols; one for the 11-12 graders (14
scouts) and one for the 9-10 graders (17 scouts). Our Venture scouts
participated in all troop activities as well as planning their own unique
Venture activities (3/year) plus a week long high adventure trek in the
summer. During the troop meetings for the past two years, our Venture scouts
took some really exotic merit badges like Crime Prevention, Aviation, Rifle
Shooting (black powder), Cinematography, Auto Mechanics, Climbing and Space
Exploration. Despite this program, our oldest scouts were looking for some
more challenges. Most were Eagle or almost Eagle and were pretty busy with
sports, jobs, band, academics and dating. I believe that if you don't offer
something challenging and exciting to your older boys that you will lose them
Then Venturing came along. After reading over the material, the troop adults
sat down to discuss whether this would be an opportunity for not only the
youth of the troop, but other high school age youth from the community. In
September 1998, we formed a crew using as its cadre, the older scouts from
the troop who had gone to Philmont that summer. Other youth members
including a couple of sisters, one boy who had dropped out of troop scouting,
and friends registered in the crew. Since that time, the crew has grown to
22 youth members. In my discussions with them, they enjoy the co-ed
atmosphere of the crew and feel challenged by its tough advancement program
leading to the Silver and Ranger awards. They also like the fact that they
are really treated like young adults (it is hard to do that in the troop
because of the age spectrum).
I believe that Venturing can be a natural following to Boy Scouting, just
like Cubs crossover at the end of their pack days. We still maintain a close
relationship with the troop since every Venturing advancement requires the
youth members to teach what they have learned before it can be signed off. I
was a troop adult leader for 24 years and enjoyed it. However, can tell you
that Venturing has given me a new spark and an opportunity to work with some
really talented young people. I'm hooked!
You may want to discuss Venturing with your council reps and even buy the
Venturing Leader Manual to find out more about the program.
Advisor, Venturing Crew 1519