Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: Order of the Arrow - more
Re: Order of the Arrow - more
Bruce E. Cobern
Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:55:47 -0400
From: MAJ Mike L. Walton (Settummanque, the blackeagle)
Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 12:36 PM
>My point is that while it is true that Ventures and OA members are
>members, that presently Venturers CANNOT be ELECTED to the OA unlike
>Boy Scout counterparts.
Because the OA is a program feature of the BOY SCOUT division, and
Venturers are not members of that division.
>The reasoning is that the OA is a BOY SCOUT PROGRAM OPTION,
>and NOT a Venturing program option (unlike the Exploring program it
>preceded, which did allow for males to become OA members upon election
>their Post or Ship members).
Not since 1990. That is when BOTH the Boy Scout Division AND the
Exploring division decided that it was not appropriate for elections to
be held in Explorer Posts. In fact, I believe that the primary
announcement of the change was made by Exploring, followed up with an OA
operations update, unless the two were issued simultaneously. This was
NOT a situation where the Exploring Division wanted to continue to use
the OA program but were refused by the Boy Scout Division.
The Venturing Division has merely chosen to continue this policy for all
of the same reasons that were enunciated back in 1990. They were, I
believe, repeated in a 1998 or 1999 Operations Update from the OA side
discussing the ongoing decision not to allow elections in Crews.
> In making the OA a strictly Boy Scout program
>option, the OA removed the ability for outstanding Venturers, members
>outdoor adventure Crews and perhaps have earned the coveted Ranger
>the honor of belonging to the OA UNLESS they are also registered as
>Boy Scout or Varsity Scout (which also means that if they are to be
>as a YOUTH, they must be under 18 years of age. Assistant Scoutmasters
>considered adults, and must be elected using the adult guidelines.)
This also is not so. Since 1988 the youth/adult age in the OA has been
a consistent 21, including for elections. Thus those under 21 must be
elected AS youth BY youth and must meet the YOUTH eligibility
Bruce E. Cobern