Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: Tour permits and Chain of command (venting)(me too)
Re: Tour permits and Chain of command (venting)(me too)
Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:08:36 -0500
A loophole? come now, In our unit the Charter organization approves all
leaders whether it be the committee chair or an ASM. As a member of the
charter organization I have complete confidence in ALL(yes I mean all) of
the "Leaders" in the unit. I don't think that the "unit leader" is any
better (or any worse) at insuring the safety and well being of the boys
anymore than any of the other leaders. However, I must concede that your
idea of having a second sign-off is Very good (sort of goes to that two-deep
Scoutmasters and Committee Chairs are focal points to help organize and
orchestrate the unit. That doesn't mean that the ASM's and other Committee
members now become useless appendages. Quite the contrary, If a Scoutmaster
or Committee chair does a very good job (especially in large troops) there
is room for the ASM's to take charge, as in the ASM in charge of the new
scouts. He can take the First-year scouts on an outing to earn some of their
first-class requirements without involving the Life scouts who would just
get bored anyway. Of course, this assumes that ALL this occurs through the
PLC (which IMHO IS the best way). And maybe even give the old Scoutmaster a
weekend with his/her spouse(or Significant others I guess now?)<G>.
So, I believe the tour permits, in their present form(kind of a pun?);-),
works really great for us. And I believe that they work well for you in the
way you manage it.
Just an old Scouter, with lots of letters.
Life is short, so hug a kid.
From: MAJ Mike L. Walton (Settummanque, the blackeagle)
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Tour permits and Chain of command (venting)
The Tour Permit is to be signed by the Tour Leader. That could be the
Cubmaster, a Committeemember or Chair, or other registered person in charge
of the tour. The other signature on the Tour Permit is that of A MEMBER of
the unit's committee.
(what a loophole, right??)