Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: I'M WRONG re: parent camping
Re: I'M WRONG re: parent camping
Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:17:12 -0600
>I'm glad to see the clarification. However, I don't think I am the only
>one who is concerned with the potential implications of your council
>policy. We have had a number of discussions about "closed activities" on
>this list. Your council is probably trying to force parents to make a
>formal commitment to Scout leadership, but any time you institute such a
>policy you also leave yourself wide open to the impression that you are
>hiding something. I understand the arguments both ways and agree with
>most of them. However I tend to favor strongly encouraging all active
>adults to register but not making it a requirement to participate with
>their son. Show them the benefits of registration rather than making it
>just another hoop they have to go through. You will get a lot better
>commitment and support that way.
Hi Richard, et al,
Gotta dissagree with you on this one. Our troop has the most stringent
policy with regard to leader training and participation AND we have one of,
if not THE highest levels of parent involvement and percentage of leaders
per scout in our district. Our troop policy states that if you want to
attend camping activities with the troop you must register, attend SM
Fundamentals (a two weekend, two weeknight course), attend troop meetings
regularly. The ONLY exceptions we make to this rule are that we will
accept registrations and leadership from Eagle scouts IF they commit to get
SMF training within a year. Our summer camp leader attendance policy is
even more strict. Our current numbers are 78 scouts and 30 VERY ACTIVE
I FIRMLY believe that holding a firm line on training INCREASES parental
involvement for these reasons:
1. As most any marketing pro will tell you...."if it's free, it's not valued".
If anyone can simply step in and attend campouts, no one is interested.
2. The more training one gets, the more respect they have for the program and
the more interested they become in being PERSONALLY involved in delivering
3. Training makes them more confident and successful at being good leaders.
Everyone wants to be successful.
4. As your troop begins to boast of the increased numbers of registered scouts
and leaders and as you boast of your adult leadership cadre being 100%
trained, your troop becomes even more desireable. Success breeds success.
In addition, I don't know about your council's policy, but our council
provides liability insurance for registered leaders. If you take
non-registered adults on a campout and something happens to scouts in
his/her charge, you just opened your window of liability.....obviously, YOU
approved this adult as competent.
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