Scouts-L Mail Archive for August of 1999: Re: Summer Camp Adult Vacations?
Re: Summer Camp Adult Vacations?
Bruce E. Cobern
Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:02:24 -0400
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scouts-L Youth Group List [mailto:Scouts-L@listserv.tcu.edu]On
> Behalf Of Calvin H. Gray
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 8:25 PM
> Our troop has never turned down an adult who wanted to attend summer
> camp and I doubt if we ever will.
I'm with Calvin on this one. We also never turn down any adults who wish to
attend camp with us. This year we just returned from two weeks in camp. We
had 39 Scouts the first week with 7 full time leaders. We had no part timers
that week. This past week we had 31 Scouts with 10 full time leaders and one
or two part timers for a night or two.
We use the adults as instructors and testers for some of the basic Scout
skills, or to help train our older Scouts in how to properly teach and test
We wrestled with the cost of these adults and decided that we didn't want to
have to decide who paid what, i.e. who were the "free adults" (which didn't
exist when we started attending this camp) and who paid the weekly adult fee.
What we did was to build $10/boy/week into our fee 8 years ago to replace the
free leaders we received at our old camp for which we now would be charged
(this kept our fee the same while changing camps and did not lead to an
increased cost for the youth). Any excess of the leader cost over this
allocated amount is divided up amongst all the adults in camp. What this
meant was that this summer each adult paid $6 for each night he was in camp
for supper. This approximately covered the fee paid to the camp for the
adults, net of the fee collected as part of our camp fees.
We have never found that the excess adults in camp hindered the program in any
way. In many ways they add to it.
Bruce E. Cobern
MC, Troop 1, Flushing, NY