Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: The real factor is......
Re: The real factor is......
Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:54:03 -0400
At 11:09 AM 6/30/99 , you wrote:
>Scouts and Scouters,
>It just steams me to see a Scout get his Eagle given to him, or for him
>to pass the requirements, but never really EARN it. I see the situation
>with many young Eagles in our Council where they really don't EARN it. I
>guess that is my main complaint about young Eagles. If they have truly
>EARNED it, then let it be pinned on, but otherwise hold them back, or
>slow them down, until they have actually EARNED a rank; be it Tenderfoot,
>Life, or Eagle.
Lets see. Its been 9 years since you made Eagle. Congratulations on
making Eagle! Few scouts achieve that rank. But, what puzzles me is
the lack of definition on what it takes to EARN Eagle. You probably
worked hard and did 'A' level work. As you look around, you might see
newer scouts doing 'C' level work and still being awarded Eagle. Are they
less deserving? I don't know about your time in your troop as a scout and
how you were as a scout. Most scoutmasters I know are kindly sort of
guys who give young men the benefit of the doubt when the first come
into scouting. Certainly the work you did as a LIfe or Eagle scout was
not as good as that you did as a tenderfoot or second class scout yet
your scoutmaster signed you off because you did your best, regardless
if it was A work or C work. You felt you earned it and he felt you
earned it. I am sure that in the 9 years since you made Eagle you have
worked with hundreds of scouts will all levels of skills and desire. Right?
With that background I am sure that you know which scouts earned Eagle
and those who didnt. Right?
It has only been 9 years since you made Eagle and already you sound like
an old fogey. You know the line...'Things were tougher in my days, we had
to EARN Eagle'!
It took me until age 17 to EARN my Eagle, My son EARNED his at 13.
The difference was motivation and opportunity. His objective was to
beat his dad! Sounds good to me.
Unless a leader was actually part of the unit from which the (un)earned
Eagle came from, I seriously doubt if he would have any real insight into
how the young man actually earned Eagle. If the unearned Eagle was in
his own unit, it is time for self examination.
While you are at it:
1. How about educating the list on how a scout EARNs the rank according
to your standards. I use the ones in the book.
2. How do you hold a scout back until he EARNs it?
3. How do you slow a scout down until he EARNs it?
No Joe, we cannot judge others by our personal achievements. If you
look back, Eagle is no easier to achieve than in the past. In fact, as I
review the requirements now vs the 50's, it seems to be a little tougher!
If it was true that lots of unearned Eagles were given away, we would be
flooded with announcements. I don't see that happening. When the statistics
show that less than 10% of all scouts ever achieve Eagle, it seems to me
that the specialness and challenge remains.
Joe, you EARNED Eagle your way. Don't begrudge other scouts who
also earn Eagle but do it their way! As long as they do it the scout
way and by the book, you have no complaint.
Stephen M. Hoar