Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: I've had it...
Re: I've had it...
Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:51:25 -0700
> Catching up on a couple weeks of journals here, and have gotten MAJORLY
> tired of those of you with the problem over youth receiving Eagle "too
> AVERAGE AGE OF SCOUTS GETTING EAGLE is currently about 14 years, 9
> Thats about a month older than it was when last averaged (no one said when
> that was).
I have followed this thread for the second time since I have been on this
list with interest.
My thoughts go the following direction as an Advancement chair for our
Troop and as a Mom of 2 Scouts.
In Scouting, we can hope to get these boys at a young age and provide
a foundation of values that they can carry with them all of their lives. To
defer them in their goals, when they are trying to go on their own and
gain the personal maturity to accomplish the goals before them is to
halt them in trying to grow and mature. Just as pushing them towards
the goals that WE as adults have in mind for them can be just as
detremental to them.
These boys must be allowed to set their own goals and earn them their
way. That Eagle will not mean anything to a boy that did it for Mom,
Dad, or Mr Scoutmaster. It only matters to them when they can look
back and say "I did this!" It doesnt matter that Mom or Dad thought
that it was best for them to earn that Eagle, only that THEY did it.
In our Troop, we have both ends of the spectrum. Boys that are
midnight Eagles and younger ones that are eager to earn it NOW.
Indeed in my own home I have this. My oldist wants to take his time
and get there when he is darned good and ready (if he wants to get
there at all) My youngist is charging ahead, guns blazin, hey Mr
Scoutmaster can you sign my book so I can do this...
This is fine in both circumstances. If my oldist doesnt make Eagle but
has all this Scouting experience to build on, then good.. he has learned
what he needs to know.. If my youngist blazes the trail and leaves
nothing but dust behind him, that is fine too.. as long as they BOTH do
it their way.
If the boy's Troop and family can honestly say that they didnt push,
prod, or argue with the boy about how important it was for the boy to
earn that Eagle, if he did it because HE wanted to, then it doesnt matter
if he is an Eagle at 13 or an Eagle at 17 years 364 days.
Being an Eagle is a great thing.. but my thoughts go along the basis of
are we trying to make every boy into an Eagle or are we trying to give
these boys skills for life?
So all in all, I have to say that I dont see what the fuss is over age,
when we need to look at the boy as our future, not a Eagle # such and
such, not an age and most certaintly not a rank. Look at the boy you
have and let him find his own wings.
Redwood Empire, Yokayo District BSA
District Secretary, District Training Chair
Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner
Scouting for our Country's Future!