Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Needed-Voices of Experience---SOAPBOX Alert!!!!!!!!!
Re: Needed-Voices of Experience---SOAPBOX Alert!!!!!!!!!
Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:05:23 -0700
Joseph T Gulick <troop212@JUNO.COM> wrote (in part):
>By using the requirements of "Live the Scout Oath.....", you can
>effectively stave off a Scout who REALLY hasn't exemplified what a Scout
>is. I use this requirement religiously. That's what it is for. This
>requirement can effectively be a time requirement for those Scouts who
>are just not living up the part. I am not saying that it has to be
>examined for every Scout, because for many Scouts that requirement is a
>cake-walk. I know some Troops that have Scouts that are out of control,
>but they are still allowed to advance. Why?
I'm sorry, but I couldn't let this one pass. I cannot see anyone using
the Scout Spirit requirement to hold up an eager, enthusiastic young man
who wants to advance quickly. Wrong message. If there are problems with
how he is living according to the Scout Oath and Law, yes, it's valid.
But it should never be used against a Scout who is advancing rapidly
toward Eagle at a young age.
Back to the original premise:
I have such a Scout in my troop. In 13 months, he reached the rank of
Star, and he will likely reach Life in 19 months since joining. He is
young, absolutely. He is inexperienced in leadership, but he is learning.
He is a Den Chief, so I can only rely on reports from the Den Leader about
his performance, but the reports I have received are exempliary. To
encourage him to work on leadership with his peers, I have asked him to
recruit other Scouts to work on merit badges as I give him a blue card.
His peers respect him and elected him to the Order of the Arrow earlier
His father explained it to me this way: "He is a good student, but not
a great one. He is a good athlete, but not a great one. He has found
that he can be a great Scout and is giving it all he can."
I would echo the other comments. If an Eagle Scout leaves your program
early, it's because your program is not giving him what he needs. If
he has experienced everything your program can offer, then why shouldn't
he, as an Eagle Scout, look for new challenges elsewhere? As Steve
<steve@ECLIPSECAT.COM> pointed out, there are other things in life
My oldest son made Eagle at 15. I used to think the sky was the limit
for him. I was shortsighted. He mentioned to me a couple of weeks ago
between National Camp School and summer camp staff that he was thinking
of applying to become an astronaut!
Let's not stand in the way of those young men who set goals for themselves
and reach them.
I would much rather see a discussion of what to do about those Scouts who
make Life at 14, but won't make Eagle until they are 17.9. I have seen
too many of them.
Alan R. Houser ** email@example.com
** Scoutmaster, Troop 24, Berkeley, California **
** Committee Member, Crew 24, Berkeley, California **
** Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner, Herms District **
** WWW page ** http://www.emf.net/~troop24/t24.html **