Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Young Eagles
Re: Young Eagles
Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:06:17 -0400
I agree with both. But lets take it a step farther. Maturity is an individual
thing. Each youth reaches the point when he is mature enough to handle the
responsibility of working on the Eagle rank at a different time. Each should be
allowed to work at his own pace. If the Scout Master thinks that he is short
cutting the other ranks in order to get there, then that needs to be looked at.
It seems the key thing to remember with the young Eagle is that they need
something else to do to keep them challenged in the troop after they finish
Eagle. This can be difficult for the adult leadership. If they do not keep the
young man challenged, he will leave the troop. He may or may not return as as
adult. How this persons is treated may have a direct bearing on how his newly
acquired leadership skills are used.
Kirkland, Chuck wrote:
> Michael Bowman wrote:
> > At the young age of 14 (in 1967) I was presented with the rank of Eagle
> > Scout.
> > But from what I read, the chances are that I wasn't mature enough to have
> > earned the rank and most likely should have been slowed down to become
> > more
> > mature. Fortunately, folks back then didn't think that way.
> I fully agree not only with the excerpt but everything Michael says.
> I was awarded the Eagle Rank in 1963 at the age of 13 years and 4 months. I
> was very agressive and wanted to earn everything in site at that age. Eagle
> was not the end off my scouting and I went on to hold every position in the
> troop and become active in Exploring.
> I drifted away from Scouting when I was 16 and had to start working
> full-time. Only once did I think that my Eagle was earned too early and that
> was when I attended an Eagle Scout career day and I got to pick the career I
> was interested in to spend the day. It was spent with one of the Big 8
> (back then) accounting firms and everything seemed over my head. By the way
> I went on to get my BBA in Accounting several years later.
> I recently ended 3 years as Scoutmaster in my troop which has grown
> from approx 25 to over 50 scouts. As of this day, there are 14 Life Scouts
> and we held 2 Eagle Court of Honors in the last week. Both Scouts earned
> their awards. One was 15 and just fininshed up 9 months as SPL, The other
> turned 17 this week.
> Besides earning it themselves, there is one common denominator.
> They wanted their award. The 17 year old is moving back to the States next
> week. I think it influenced his decision to complete his Eagle because he
> wanted the COH with his friends. The other hasn't missed a meeting since
> his BOR and that was in late March.
> To me age has no bearing on the award. It is the leadership they
> continue to show their fellow scouts. The 17 year old came last night
> looking for the advancement chairman so he could get his advancement
> records. He wanted to be sure he could pick up with his new troop as soon
> as he got to his new home.
> The average age for Eagles in our Troop is 16. We want them to want
> to be Eagles. We also want them to include troop activities in their quest.
> We only average 2 Eagles a year in the troop (although this should be a
> bumper year) with the philosophy of "They have to want it so it will mean
> more to them"
> Take the adult out of the push for advancement and you will find a
> true Eagle Scout.
> Offer the scouts opportunities. We have had scouts from the troop
> as Lodge Chief 4 out of the last 6 years and Chapter Chief 7 out of 8 years.
> We pride ourselves on the number of our Troop Members on the Camp Freedom
> Summer Camp Staff (4 youth and 1 adult this year).
> The program creates the Eagle. If you think your troop has too many
> young Eagles , then give them more to do than work on advancement.
> Chuck Kirkland
> Troop 26
> Heidelberg, Germany
> Black Eagle Lodge