Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Needed-Voices of Experience
Re: Needed-Voices of Experience
Calvin H. Gray
Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:05:37 -0500
Ron Leedy wrote:
> So was he really worthy of being an Eagle? He is honored as an Eagle
> forever but your message comes across that he really did not have the spirit
> of an Eagle. I don't want to sound callous but a lot of young people die
> each year does that mean we should lower the bar just in case? You can't
> predict when we are called home and we all must live with ourselves.
> If he completed the requirements then he should have earned his Eagle. The
> hardest requirement to pass and verify (for both scout and SM) is Scout
> spirit. I don't believe we should put time back in as a requirement.
> Instead we should leave it to the SM to give guidance in their talks to
> verify spirit is being meet and greater leadership (maturity) is really
> shown as the scout progresses through the ranks.
I certainly didn't mean to imply that he didn't have the "Spirit of
an Eagle." He had more spirit and courage than any young person I've
The point I was attempting to make is that we adults have no right to
take action that keeps a young person from achieving his goals, even if
a boy wants to earn the Eagle Award at age 13 or earlier.
Most assuredly, the Scout in question completed all the requirements for
Eagle. No one "lowered the bar" for him. He earned two palms and had
enough badges to earn another one if he had stayed in Scouting. He had
70 days/nights of camping when he departed Scouting, and attended four
summer camps and two high adventure trips. He was an excellent ASPL.
He packed more "living" into 16 1/2 years than many who live five or six
Calvin H. Gray
Scoutmaster, Troop 405
I used to be an Owl (WM-62-2-98 @ Philmont)