Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Refunds for Scouts leaving troop
Re: Refunds for Scouts leaving troop
Settummanque, the blackeagle
Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:13:51 -0500
Hi Sarah! You asked:
>We have a Scout who is leaving our troop, and his father is asking for a
>refund of his troop account. Up til now, our troop policy on boys'
>accounts was intended to direct that they use it for troop functions,
>but it wasn't really clear. In this particular case, the boy had
>contributed $28 in $2 increments along with weekly dues, and he'd >earned
about $250-275 selling popcorn. Unfortunately, the troop >doesn't have that
much money to give him right now.
If he contributed money to go into a fund, he should be entitled to
receiving that money back if he chooses to do so; but if he assisted the
Troop in EARNING monies, through a unit fund-raiser, he should NOT receive
that money back -- it belongs to the unit. That's like me asking my church
to give me my percentage of what I've earned for the church during a pancake
breakfast that I worked at!
>Furthermore, his father had paid
>for the rental of a trailer for one of the troop outings last year, and
>he also paid for prizes for the top popcorn sellers, not only for the
>troop but also for our CO's pack as well. He repeatedly refused offers
>from the troop and pack for reimbursement, but now he's bringing this
>issue up as a guilt trip.
Too bad, so sad, call your dad (and wish him Happy Father's Day!). If the
Troop made the offer to reimburse him for the monies he was out of
personally, and he chose NOT to accept it, then it's time to move onward!
>To cap it off, he's on the board of our CO,
>although I don't think he could initiate a sucessful effort to disband
>the troop or anything similar (nearly everyone on the board has one or
>more sons in either the troop or the pack or both).
That doesn't matter. Consistancy is the name of the game here, Sarah. If
you did the same thing to other parents and Scouts, you must do the same
with regard to him and his Scout son.
>We have since done away
>with the $2 weekly contribution to troop accounts, and in the future all
>monies in the boys' accounts can be used *only* for activities with
>*our* troop. If they leave the troop, they forfeit the account.
My basic rule of thumb regarding "accounts" (I don't like them, by the way,
for this very reason AND for the "interest" reason: who gets the "interest"
generated from the savings of the money??) is:
*money given to a fund by a Scout is refundable to the Scout or the Scouts'
family; money earned by a Scout as part of a unit or Council fundraiser is
not refundable to the Scout or his family under any circumstances.*
Again, the idea is to be consistant in your dealings with this guy. If you
have given a blanket refund of everything to another Scout or Scout family
in a similiar way, then you must do the same with regard to this guy. If
you have given nothing in the past, that's what this guy and his Scout son
gets too. And if you have never done this kind of refund, take the best
advice you can get, and after it is settled, develop a policy whereby your
unit and its families can live with and understand completely. The simplier
Hope this helps out, Sarah!
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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