Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Order of the Arrow Ordeal (or initiation/hazing?)
Re: Order of the Arrow Ordeal (or initiation/hazing?)
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:16:21 -0700
Cole, Mick wrote:
> I am the scoutmaster of Troop 62 in Rochester, NY (Otetiana Council).
> This is my third year as scoutmaster. I was also an ASM for two years,
> a Webelos Den Leader for two years and a Den Leader for two years.
> For the first three years, I have allowed OA elections, but have become
> increasingly uncomfortable about the shroud of secrecy, and wall of silence
> around the "Ordeal," which prevents me from properly advising OA
> candidates and their parents about what to expect.
> Mick Cole
> Troop 62
You mention advising your scouts and parents. I believe the OA membership team
comes to your meeting to do just that.
I am assuming you have had both short and long term camping and could qualify
for the OA.. Your Troop Committee may be ready to elect you to the order of
the Arrow. Then you would find out about the Fellowship of the Order of the
Arrow. If you and your boys were told everything about the ordeal in advance
where would the fun of learning go. In our Chapter the Ordeal candidates are
invited to the OA meeting prior to the OA Fellowship weekend. They are assisted
with learning their blanket rolls. They are told when to arrive, what to bring
and a little about the weekend. The Ordeal weekend is a lot of fun, even with
working for the camps. No one is abused, no labor laws are violated, there is
no hazing and the Scouts must like the weekend or they would leave and tell the
rest of the troop everything. As they have not told you everything, I guess
they like what they have gotten themselves into. I have not seen anyone, Youth
or Adult starve to death, as a matter of fact some of us came home heavier then
when we left.
If you think you need to know it all, get with your Chapter advisor or Lodge
advisor and they will fill you in. Then you will have a chance to be elected
in and spoil your weekend by knowing what to expect.
Cliff Cray, A good Ole "Bear" NE-I-150
Former SM Troop 136, SM 97 Jambo Troop 527
Former District Commissioner
Activities Chairman, Historic District
Daniel Webster Council, Manchester, NH