Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Youth Protection Guidelines Website
Re: Youth Protection Guidelines Website
Paul S. Wolf
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:37:32 -0400
Laura Hix wrote:
> This is the guidelines I use to teach YPT. It states clear and plain
> in them that BSA use 2-deep ALL THE TIME. And that every leader
> should be YPT trained. These are what are given me, by my council to
> Train in YPT. That would be the best resource. Your Council's YPT
> Training Chairman.
> Youth Protection Guidelines Cherokee District, Circle Ten Council,
> Dallas, TX If you do not have web access and would like a copy of
> these, please email me privately. Thanks.
> Laura Hix
Actually, Laura, what it says is:
Two-deep leadership. Two registered adult leaders or one
registered leader and a parent of a participant, one of whom
must be 21 years of age or older, are required on all trips and
outings. The chartered organization is responsible for ensuring
that sufficient leadership is provided for all activities.
That does NOT say that 2 deep leadership is required at all times.
Neither does the Guide to Safe Scouting.
There's also nothing on that page that says that all BSA Adult members
MUST be YP Trained, either.
The information on the page you referenced above is also on the USSSP at
I prepared that page for the USSSP. It is a reproduction of a pamphlet
BSA has issued as part of YP Training, but it's NOT a policy statement,
just training material.
BTW, You've also been quoting the USSSP page on Merit Badge counseling,
I prepared that page, also. I'd like to point out that it says at the
The information above is based on the 1993 printing of
"Merit Badge Counseling" (BSA Publication No. 34520)
and "Merit Badge Counselor Information" (No. 34405),
modified to reflect current BSA Youth Protection Guidelines.
The modifications, including much of what you've quoted, are MY
interpretation of the guidelines, and are NOT taken directly from BSA
policy documents. I believe the information to be accurate, but keep in
mind that some of that page is MY wording, NOT BSA's.
A current version of Pub. 34405 is available on BSA's web site, at
I've been trying to find a more current version of Pub. 34520, but
haven't gotten one yet. When I do, and if the wording has changed, I'll
update the page to reflect any further information BSA has provided. If
anyone on the list has a current version of that publication, and can
send me one or scan it in as either a pdf, an image I can input to my
OCR software, or plain text, please contact me. Thanks.
Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP http://www.usscouts.org