Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: MB counselor registration question
Re: MB counselor registration question
Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:32:50 -0400
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Bruce E. Cobern wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam McNamee <smcname@MANU.COM>
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:50 PM
> >Laura Hix wrote:
> >>>It doesn't matter who the adult is. If they are participating in BSA
> >must be YPT trained. <<
> Well, first to comment about Laura's statement above. If she had used
> the word SHOULD instead of the word MUST, I probably wouldn't have a
> problem with it. I believe YPT is a good and valuable program, and one
> that, in some form, should be taken by those working directly with the
> youth. However:
> >to get, considerable training in the latter topics, what purpose is
> >by taking them through our version of it? Especially if they are
> >reluctant to volunteer.
> I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who was having
> difficulty with the "make every take all this training" attitude. Then
> I read Sam's post, and I realize I am not alone, thankfully. If we
ME: Nope, you're not alone. (g)
> That is NOT the situation a mbc counselor finds himself in. S/he meet
> with a Scout once or twice for a limited time for a specific purpose.
> And, while it is POSSIBLE that the mbc will notice something that
> signals abuse and needs reporting, that is nowhere near as likely in the
> mb situation as it is during ongoing troop activities.
Illustration: I often have very dry skin, especially on my lower leg and
feet. When they start itching, I scratch; I'm not smart enough to stop
before they bleed. One time, I happened to be healing from one of those
sessions when I saw a new doctor. The man did a Spanish Inquisition, and
I finally caught on to why and assured him my husband wasn't abusing me,
I was just itchy. I'm not at all sure he believes me even today.
Illustration 2: I once overheard what sounded like a child being beaten
with a leather strop (no, that's not a typo). I had my hand on the phone
to dial 911, but thought better of it. Good thing too -- seconds later,
I saw the adult who might be doing the beating climbing OUT of his car
in the parking lot. Turned out the kids were playing Kentucky Derby and
whacking the sofa with a belt! They were saying "GO!" not "NO!"
> protect ourselves and our children, not succumb to paranoia. (And I
> believe much of what is going around councils in this area is just that,
> or, more likely, an exercise in CYA in attempt to remove FINANCIAL
> liability. Yes, I am a cynic.)
And let someone who ISN'T abusing a child sue the Council for well-meant
interference and we'll see a sudden and immediate (not to mention
dramatic) drop in the "need" for such training. Remember the Kidnapped
Child hoo-haw of a decade or so ago? Heck, I *knew* it was 90%
psychological and still got suckered into it.