Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Question re Vandalism
Re: Question re Vandalism
Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:57:22 -0700
Here's what I think.
You currently have a lose/lose situation: the unit is out an active
supporter, the guilty party hasn't learned anything, and you're
In any business if the customer (in this case the person with the
vandalized car) is not happy with how the floor supervisor (in this case
the SM) responds to a complaint, they have the right to take their
complaint to the supervisors superior. In this case the Scoutmasters
superior is the Troop Committee. That would be my next step if I was in
Of course, you'll want to be careful not to place blame on a boy unless
you are absolutely certain he is guilty. Instead, you could turn this
into a positive learning experience for the entire unit. Since troops
are boy run, here is how I would do it:
1. First, talk to the Troop Committee, or Scoutmaster, and get their
permission to explain to the JLC what happened.
2. Without casting blame on any individual, explain to the JLC what
3. Have them come up with an appropriate way for the unit to make
What does everyone else on the listserv think?
> I have a question to pose to the list:
> It has taken me a few months to get our SM aside and tell him of an act of
> vandalism that was done to my car during a troop campout (not there Friday
> night but there Sunday morning). Apparently, one of the boys in our troop
> (don't know who but have a few suspects) carved a derrogatory remark in the
> dashboard of my car.
> Now, the CC, who is not a fan of mine (he's an older guy and I am a female
> who doesn't seem to know my place) is trying to convince me that this is my
> fault for not locking my car while it was at our campsite and also that it is
> now too late to do anything about it. I refuse to take any blame--if there
> is anywhere one should not worry about deliberate vandalism to one's car, it
> is on a troop campout.
> My feeling is that vandalism is serious, especially to a car, and that it is
> never too late to make the responsibile party accountable. I think we are
> doing the Scout in question a disservice NOT hold him accountable. Also, if
> I were a new volunteer coming into the troop I would not be happy to learn
> that this kind of vandalism goes unquestioned and that volunteers are held to
> blame for the destruction to their property.
> I am crushed for two reasons:
> I camp a lot with the troop and am a willing driver--heck, I even bought the
> SUV instead of a T-bird so I could drive kids on campouts; and
> The derrogatory remark was directed at my son.
> Any thoughts from Scouts-L what should be done here? My feeling is that
> until there is a resolution, I am no longer willing to drive.
> Kathy Coates, ASM Troop 28