Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Canadian Jamboree
Frank N. Potter
Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:52:51 -0600
Once again, excuse me for inserting a bit of Canadiana. If you are
interested in Jamborees in general, read on. Otherwise, thanks for the use
of the space!
Frank N. Potter
#209 Erin Woods Scouts
Calgary, AB. Canada
Original message posted to Canadian Scout List Service
As you may know, I posted a question recently about experiences with
(Canadian Jamboree) CJ. This was to get some background information as my
group decides whether or not to go to CJ'01.
I thought I would give an interim report back to the list. I won't provide
a full report yet, but I will give you some statistics about who has
responded and responses to the last question (names are not posted nor will
they ever be - a Scout is Trusty worthy).
If you went to CJ'97, please consider taking the time to respond to my
survey. I am interested in your comments good or bad. The original survey
is at the bottom of this post.
Responses to date: 5
Source of responses: 2 from BC, 2 from the USA, 1 unknown
Question 11 read:
11. In retrospect - was it (CJ 97) worth it?
Let me answer just question 11, Was it worth it? The answer: NO!, not in
anyway shape or form, it was a rip off from start to finish. There is no
way we got our monies worth.
If I were you, I'd be looking for a UK or USA Troop to exchange with.
You'll get far more from it.
Yes. As I mentioned earlier these kids are growing up semi-isolated.
However it will not be long before they may have to leave to go to college
or to get a job. Just listening to their comments as they flew over the
Rockies and the prairies (where the roads are straight as far as you can
see but the rivers curve all over the place - the opposite of here where
the rivers are fairly straight and the roads are curvy), then watching the
'toothpick' logging trucks in Ontario showed they'd gained a new
appreciation for the variations within Canada. I also noticed a growth in
them in terms of their ability to meet new people. They all came back
wanting to go to CJ'01 even if it's even farther away.
It was worth every penny and every minute of our time and all the hard work
fundraising and planning. It was FABULOUS !!! A once in a life time
experience for the youth. I think they enjoyed meeting the people more
than the activities. I was burned out after the trip home. (26 hours
travelling from Thunder Bay to <this section removed to protect the
anonymity of the original author>)
1. When did you decide to go to CJ?
2. What was the average or typical cost per child/adult?
3. Of this cost, what percentage did the parents pay and how much were you
able to fund raise?
4. How would you generally categorize your troop's average socioeconomic
situation: lower middle class, middle class, upper class, or other (please
5. Did you establish an agreement with the parents/leaders that governed
such things as withdrawals or fundraising commitments? Were these
agreements in writing and are you willing to share a sample.
6. How much was your group committee involved in the CJ preparations? Did
you form a separate parents association to fundraise and organize CJ?
7. Did you make major equipment purchases for CJ, if so what were they?
8. Did you make your own travel arrangements or book through Scouts Canada?
Would you do the same again?
9. Did you have any difficult children/parents? What was the difficulty
and how did you deal with it? (If this was the case, please email me
privately and in confidence).
10. Outside of fundraising, how much preparation did you do for CJ? For
example, developing camping and camp craft skills, team and leadership
skills building, scenario planning for things like homesickness or
11. In retrospect - was it worth it?
12. Do you have any other comments or suggestions for a troop making its
first jamboree trek?