Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Position of Responsibility
Re: Position of Responsibility
Ian N Ford FRSH
Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:09:10 +0100
I can't see why one activity that meets several requirements should not be
used unless there is a rule otherwise. The program is there to ensure that
Scouts participate in experiences that will help towards the overall aim of
producing participating citizens. It is not about making things artificially
hard or overly bureaucratic.
In adult life a lot of things that we do have an element of double counting.
For instance, coming from Transatlantic Council we have Scouters in the
military who get recognition from BSA for Scouting service, and get
recognition from the military for community participation. Should one say
that Scouters in the military should choose between counting their tenure
for a BSA award such as the Scoutmaster's Key or a military recognition, but
not be allowed both ? What about Leaders who use Wood Badge for college
It is illogical to say that one can " double dip " if one award is inside
Scouting and one outside, but not for two Scouting awards. Surely what we
are looking for in each rank or merit badge is that the Scout should
demonstrate competency in particular skills. If a Scout demonstrates the
ability to use knots and lashings in a pioneering project, say, why not
count that towards rank advancement and the merit badge ? What is the point
of saying we can't double count and then going through the motions of
getting him to tie two broom handles together the next week just so someone
can check off an advancement item with a different date and set of initials.
>I understand the normal Scouting policy of not getting credit for two
>different advancements for the same activity. But is there a chance that
>are adding extra requirements by suggesting that leadership and service are
>mutually exclusive rather than orthogonal?