Scouts-L Mail Archive for June of 1999: Re: Prejudices
Mon, 31 May 1999 15:28:21 -0400
Robert W. Myers wrote:
> When Mr. Deneen posted a letter to the editor on this list, virtually
> without comment, Mr. Deneen must take full responsibility for those words.
> They were clearly highly political, probably offensive to many, and, IMO,
> contrary to the spirit of Scouting. You just can't toss a fire bomb you
> find and claim it wasn't yours. Although I agree that some of the public
> responses to Mr. Deneen's post have not been fully within the Scout Law, I'm
> sure Jon, the Scouts-L list owner, does not appreciate such off-subject
> political material on his list.<<
Point well taken. Chuck Deneen has already figured out the
inappropriateness of his post and apologized to the list. Perhaps the
subject of_this_letter was beyond the intended scope of the list. But
"highly political" is an easy catch phrase often used by people who
would rather demonize the messenger than argue the facts on their own
merits. This particular letter was presented to the group in an effort
to stimulate such (facts) discussion. It's topic is tangential to others
we debate, often without conclusion. I would agree that this subject
matter would be better off somewhere else. But trying to get people to
think and ask themselves some serious questions is not a crime, at least
not yet. And self examination is a good thing from time to time,
especially when you consider that WE are the role models for the youth
we mentor. This topic obviously touches a nerve in many, which also
underscore's it's importance IMHO. The nature of the responses is
equally enlightening. It should be painfully obvious that this country
and its youth are in deep trouble. It concerns me, Chuck, and many fine
Scouters that our institutions at all levels are failing the next
generation, even Scouting to some extent. It is especially alarming that
many in Scouting seem to be either unconcerned or willing participants
(accomplices?) in this social re-engineering and that IS of appropriate
concern to many on this list. I'm sure even B-P would concur with
occasional self examination for the good of the program (and movement).
As for Jon, let him speak for himself.
As for "toss(ing) fire bomb(s)", it's about time someone lit something
under the derierres of the more complacent and appathetic amongst us.
And if some get burned in the process, that may not be a bad thing
either. To paraphrase Chancey Gardner: "you've got to prune in the fall
to encourage new growth in the spring". Well.......'tis the season
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