Scouts-L Mail Archive for May of 1999: Re: Personal fitness???
Re: Personal fitness???
Bruce E. Cobern
Mon, 3 May 1999 14:49:00 -0400
From: Musto, Neal (NIDDK) <MustoN@EXTRA.NIDDK.NIH.GOV>
Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:35 PM
>Another question to submit to the collective wisdom of the List.
> Due to the recent changes in the Eagle requirements we have had a
>scouts embark on the personal fitness merit badge and we are closely
>it for the first time. Requirement 7 states " Be evaluated above the
>percentile in the aerobic endurance test, flexibility test, and
>strength test." My problem is with a physically challenged boy that
>this requirement (I.e., fall into the 50th percentile). Now I
>the NEW requirements have changed this but this boy and others have
>badge under the old rubric and want to stay on that track (due to the
>physical fitness program). What do I do, especially with the challenged
>obvious solution is to suggest the NEW requirements, but I have done
>got the argument "but I started under the old and now you want to
>rules". (you know the sense on honor and fairness that prevails at this
>My sense is to ask him to do the tests to the best of his abilities,
>set up a program, execute it and have him show improvement after the
>Do I see a show of hands?
My answer depends on what you mean by "physically challenged." If, by
that, you mean that he has a disability that would qualify him for
alternative merit badges under the BSA definition, which is essentially
the same as the ADA definition (right Jay?), then he has to complete as
much of the merit badge as he can, complete the rest of his merit
badges, and then apply for alternative merit badges using the
established procedure. He DOES NOT have the option of just "doing his
best" and then just showing improvement after 4 weeks. He either meets
the old requirements, meets the new requirements, or applies for
alternate merit badges.
If, on the other hand, his being "physically challenged" does NOT mean
ADA qualification, then there are really only two choices, meet the OLD
requirements, as written, or meet the NEW requirements, as written. How
old are these Scouts? How much time pressure are they under? If they
are not approaching 18 in the near future, how do you know he won't EVER
(any time before 18) be able to meet the 50th percentile, assuming he is
willing to work conscientiously toward that goal?
Anyway, the change in requirements certainly makes this a non-issue,
unless the 12 weeks extends beyond the 18th birthday.
Bruce E. Cobern